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Title: Employment seeking
Post by: The_Scientist on October 21, 2011, 02:47:15 PM
What's more heartbreaking than a scientist without sciencing to do? Well, that's me now as I find myself looking for career opportunites. My former position has been eliminated, as they told me this week. It's not the first time this sort of thing has happened, and I have some financial resources to weather this setback, which makes me more fortunate than most in this situation.

I'm starting this thread to give myself a forum for tales of the modern job seeker, and to solicit advice from those in this community with experiences to share.
Title: Re: Employment seeking
Post by: totm on October 21, 2011, 02:56:16 PM
My sympathies.  I've been there.  Don't be too proud to get yer butt to the GA Dept of Labor pronto.   Benefits are not retroactive so file early and often.
Title: Re: Employment seeking
Post by: jpellett251 on October 21, 2011, 03:42:33 PM
If you get desperate, science is one of the subjects GA will let you teach without a teaching certificate.
Title: Re: Employment seeking
Post by: MadBob on October 22, 2011, 06:30:14 AM
My sympathies.  I've been there.  Don't be too proud to get yer butt to the GA Dept of Labor pronto.   Benefits are not retroactive so file early and often.

My Bro got laid off and was out of work for a year, he did not know about the "Benefits", Unemployment, Dept O Labor and the rest that went with it. Used up a lot of Credit Cards and cash. Still paying it off and it has been ten years!
So like the above statement says, file early, often and for everything you can get so you can concentrate on whats needed to get the rug back under your feet! Best of luck in your search, hope you find something to your liking pronto....
Title: Re: Employment seeking
Post by: mikeamor on October 22, 2011, 08:38:19 AM
I was laid off around this time a couple of years ago when the departments I was responsible for had their functions outsourced to foreign companies and in the process my position was also "eliminated" (effing euphanisms, man up, your letting me go in the middle of a recession, just say it). 


Important housekeeping matters:

1 - As mentioned before, get your UI application filed.  You don't lose anything if you wait, the clock starts ticking when you file but they are slow.  Don't be embarrassed going down there either.  There are tons of professionals in the same predicament.  It's not an office filled with ne're-do-wells as you might expect but be prepared for a lesson in mind numbing bureaucracy.  Bring a book.  After you get set up initially, you can file weekly from home and only have to go in when they randomly call you in to make sure you're looking for a job.  You paid into the insurance fund so you deserve the coverage when you need it now.

2 - If you had employer provided insurance and there is any chance of a problem getting your own independently, use COBRA.  We still do not have protections needed to keep health insurance companies from denying coverage on new policies and you do not want to allow your coverage to have a gap or they'll deny you for that too.  While Georgia does not provide a typical high risk pool for health insurance, they have a well hidden safety net called the "Georgia Assignment System".  It's not cheap but it is generally good coverage for medical and prescriptions and it is actually cheaper than the Federal offering currently available.

3 - Sit down and do a serious budget to determine how long you can go at your current burn rate and with cutbacks.

4 - If you can, relax and take advantage of the time off.  Panicking and stressing are not productive or necessary activities.  Your situation simply is what it is and all you can do realize your employer is an a$$, get your ducks in a row and move forward.
Title: Re: Employment seeking
Post by: Girly on October 22, 2011, 09:04:19 AM
I echo about getting down to UI asap. I don't think they will start paying until after any severance is depleted, but getting the file started will help you out. They also have classes you can take. As someone who has paid into the system for years and cannot collect as being self employed, DO IT! I would have in a heartbeat had I been eligible.

GA does have an insurance plan where if you have a pre-existing condition and you've been turned down, you can go through them.
https://www.pcip.gov/StatePlans.html

Best of luck!
Title: Re: Employment seeking
Post by: mikeamor on October 22, 2011, 11:28:44 AM
GA does have an insurance plan where if you have a pre-existing condition and you've been turned down, you can go through them.
https://www.pcip.gov/StatePlans.html (https://www.pcip.gov/StatePlans.html)

That is the Federal plan run by the US Department of Health. Looks like they have changed up their rates a bit in July but their out of pocket max and monthly premiums are still higher than the  Georgia Assignment System plans (http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=georgia%20assignment%20system&source=web&cd=3&sqi=2&ved=0CCgQFjAC&url=http%3A%2F%2Foci.ga.gov%2FExternalResources%2FForms%2FAllForms%2FHIPAA-APP-ASSIGN.pdf&ei=Ve2iTq6NJMa2twe_j9WgBQ&usg=AFQjCNHD_cViD-vfAv47LulTDLsaXdUytw&sig2=IV3mSt4gwqOqghmi37LRIw&cad=rja).  Depending on your needs, it may or may not be a better choice.  Big show stopper is that you have to have been without coverage for 6 months to qualify for the PCIP.  That can be a problem if you have a current or chronic condition.

Best of luck!
Ditto.  ;D
Title: Re: Employment seeking
Post by: Northside Food on October 22, 2011, 04:02:54 PM
I spent a year out of work after being laid off from teaching at the end of the 09-10 school year. In addition to budgeting and visiting the GADOL as soon as you can, I advise keeping a daily routine. I'd wake up every morning with my husband, pack his lunch box and then sit down and either work on my resume, or do an assignment for grad school. (My strategy for getting back into full employment again was to go get my Masters in special education) Then I'd eat lunch and do chores around the house. My closets never looked so good! I took temp jobs, like substitute teaching, which eventually turned into a long term sub position teaching two periods a day at the school where I'd been laid off. Having things like that on my resume helped me avoid the appearance of long term unemployment, which makes it even more difficult to find work.  Little jobs like that help keep your skills sharp as well. Good luck.

If you get desperate, science is one of the subjects GA will let you teach without a teaching certificate.

I'm a Georgia certified middle school science teacher, with four years of experience teaching special needs. (I'll have the special needs certification after I complete my Masters in a few months.) It was INCREDIBLY difficult to find a job. At one point I was told by Cobb County that my resume was "perfect", but unfortunately they didn't have any positions open for me. Teaching is not a fall back profession and the shortages in certain fields that existed five years ago are non-existent now.
Title: Re: Employment seeking
Post by: jpellett251 on October 22, 2011, 11:26:18 PM
Damn.  I assumed they let people teach those subjects without certification because there was a shortage.  I guess that's probably out in the middle of nowhere though.
Title: Re: Employment seeking
Post by: Northside Food on October 23, 2011, 06:05:55 PM
A few years ago there were shortages. Math, science, special ed and foreign language are still considered "critical fields", because the teacher preparation programs at Georgia's universities don't turn out as many graduates qualified to teach those subjects as they do Language Arts, Social Studies, etc. But the year I was laid off, 3,000 other qualified teachers were laid off as well from Fulton, Dekalb, Cobb and Gwynnett. There are still massive shortages in the critical fields in the rural parts of the state and I think APS always has trouble filling spots, even when they aren't prosecuting half their staff for testing fraud, but metro Atlanta in general has a surplus of teachers. The reason I was able to get any teaching position this year, was because I had gone back to school to get my Masters in Special Ed. The job market for teachers is just as tough as any other right now.
Title: Re: Employment seeking
Post by: Lorenzo on October 24, 2011, 08:25:10 AM
How about private schools?
Title: Re: Employment seeking
Post by: Chocoholic on October 24, 2011, 03:45:46 PM
Scientist, let us know your specialties and experience so we can keep an eye out.
Title: Re: Employment seeking
Post by: Northside Food on October 24, 2011, 07:33:04 PM
How about private schools?

Just as bad. I was laid off from a private school. $20K for tuition is tough for folks to find these days, even with money coming in from Georgia GOAL or SB-10 scholarships.
Title: Re: Employment seeking
Post by: The_Scientist on October 25, 2011, 08:52:56 AM
Scientist, let us know your specialties and experience so we can keep an eye out.

I am a polymer chemist with a Master's degree in polymer science. I have 20 years of experience in formulation, meaning I combine polymers with curing agents, catalysts, fillers and various other additives to create finished products for end users. For the last five years I have been developing spray elastomers (think truck bed liners like Rhino Liner), but I have also worked on insulating foam, epoxy coatings and adhesives, rubber and PVC sealers.

Yeah, I'm a laugh riot at parties.  ???
Title: Re: Employment seeking
Post by: Chocoholic on October 26, 2011, 03:19:44 PM
LOL - don't worry, I'm used to it.  When my husband tries to explain to laypersons what he does, all I hear is Charlie Brown's teacher.   Wah-wah, wah-wah-wah-wah.  What's worse is when I hear him using full-on consultant-speak.  WTF?

Not sure if I'll come across many polymer chemistry positions, but I do in fact know another chemist by trade - though he is working in NC, and it sounds like his company, like yours, is letting people go or cutting hours, rather than hiring.
Title: Re: Employment seeking
Post by: rebelliousrose on October 26, 2011, 04:12:41 PM
Scientist, is relocation an option? I know that Houston is in the middle of a job boom in terms of the energy companies hiring- I have a friend who is a metallurgist there, if you want me to have him put out feelers. I'm really sorry to hear this- I was unemployed for six months while I tried to find a non-restaurant job. It's been tight.
Title: Re: Employment seeking
Post by: The_Scientist on October 28, 2011, 02:57:55 PM
Scientist, is relocation an option? I know that Houston is in the middle of a job boom in terms of the energy companies hiring- I have a friend who is a metallurgist there, if you want me to have him put out feelers. I'm really sorry to hear this- I was unemployed for six months while I tried to find a non-restaurant job. It's been tight.

Thanks for the offer, Rosie. I'll take whatever help I can get. Relocating is not out of the question, much as FG and I would miss all of you.  :'(

I've already got a half dozen irons in the fire, and one interview lined up. It's a different story from my last time looking for work in the mid-2000's. Then I couldn't get any response at all from most of the places I applied.
Title: Re: Employment seeking
Post by: The_Scientist on November 08, 2011, 11:29:11 AM
After two weeks the search is moving along: no offer yet, but enough activity to keep my weekdays busy. Still waiting for phone interviews to pay off with on-site visits, and calling in chits from my industry contacts. I'm appreciating the adage about never burning bridges more and more.
Title: Re: Employment seeking
Post by: totm on November 09, 2011, 11:39:25 AM
I'm appreciating the adage about never burning bridges more and more.
It is a very good adage.  I've contracted back to former companies and returned back to work for several companies.
Title: Re: Employment seeking
Post by: rebelliousrose on November 17, 2011, 08:15:51 PM
Sorry to be so late, Scientist; can you shoot me a resume- Foodgeek has my email. I've been training for my own new (FINALLY) non-restaurant job for a VERY intensive last two weeks- about damn time I got out of restaurants, I guess, because I kept blowing restaurant interviews every time I went, since I couldn't make myself do it anymore.......

Looking forward to actually doing the job! Now let me see if I can help you.
Title: Re: Employment seeking
Post by: The_Scientist on December 03, 2011, 10:23:12 AM
I'll send you a resume, rr, once I get the address from FG.

Good news all around on the job search. I had an interview in Orlando, and it resulted in a good offer. I declined it however, since the job would require long hours and tight deadlines, and FG was less than enthused about moving to Orlando.

I have three more interviews scheduled between now and the holidays, one in the area and the others elsewhere. We'll see who comes through with the goods.

Trumpet blast! Post #500!  8)
Title: Re: Employment seeking
Post by: The_Scientist on December 16, 2011, 02:48:40 PM
Offer, offer! The place in Eugene OR has put cash money on the table. They'll even let me take FG for a look-see of the area to determine if we'd be happy there.
Title: Re: Employment seeking
Post by: Girly on December 16, 2011, 03:49:10 PM
Offer, offer! The place in Eugene OR has put cash money on the table. They'll even let me take FG for a look-see of the area to determine if we'd be happy there.

Congrats! I think you'll both love it. Very beautiful out there. If you take it, we need to have a bon voyage party :)
Title: Re: Employment seeking
Post by: rwcohen on December 16, 2011, 03:54:54 PM
Congrats, that didn't take TOO long for an offer. I have friends that live in Bend, OR. It doesn't look all that far away from Eugene and they love it out there. Good luck.
Title: Re: Employment seeking
Post by: Jmolinari on December 17, 2011, 03:06:39 PM
[quote author=The_Scientist link=topic=3262.msg25327#msg25327 date=1322929392

Good news all around on the job search. I had an interview in Orlando, and it resulted in a good offer. I declined it however, since the job would require long hours and tight deadlines, and FG was less than enthused about moving to Orlando.
[/quote]

Hrmm...a job without tight deadlines and long hours? Those exist?
Title: Re: Employment seeking
Post by: MadBob on December 18, 2011, 10:55:41 AM
Offer, offer! The place in Eugene OR has put cash money on the table. They'll even let me take FG for a look-see of the area to determine if we'd be happy there.

The neighborhood I visited in Eugene many years ago, the neighbors had a stream.... can you say fresh caught fish! (As long as you don't get caught)
Title: Re: Employment seeking
Post by: Foodgeek on December 28, 2011, 05:02:04 PM
It's looking more and more like the offer in Eugene is going to be the winner in this race. We're visiting the city together to evaluate the area, but it seems to be very bike-friendly, walkable, full of public transportation and has easy access to some of the best wineries in the country.

We haven't made our decision just yet, but we'll certainly miss everyone if we do move, and we'd love to have a big going-away bash before we leave.

Anyone interested in a lovely 3-bedroom home in Marietta?
Title: Re: Employment seeking
Post by: jonnymack on December 29, 2011, 09:11:49 AM
Wow, that's awesome, Oregon should be right up your alley.  Good luck and all that.  Depending on your over/under water situation on your house, you should consider renting.  The rental market is still really hot right now.
Title: Re: Employment seeking
Post by: Chocoholic on December 29, 2011, 10:07:13 AM
This board will feel the loss, that's for certain.  I agree with the renting idea.  What's the school district?
Title: Re: Employment seeking
Post by: LizR on December 29, 2011, 11:41:05 PM
Shoot, shoot, and shoot! Good for you but bad for all of us. I'm secretly hoping that the Conyers job works out. We'd really miss you two. Don't leave without getting your pig roast mushroom soup container back from us so we can say goodbye if you go.
Title: Re: Employment seeking
Post by: Northside Food on January 08, 2012, 09:09:42 PM
Good luck in Oregon. It seems like a really nice place to live, from what I've been told.
Title: Re: Employment seeking
Post by: MadBob on January 09, 2012, 06:05:04 PM
Find a bar where the Clampers hang out, then mebbe score an invite to join in the ECV activities!  It's all about the History and Preservation of the Gold Rush ya know. And, they have some mighty fine cookouts to boot!
Title: Re: Employment seeking
Post by: rebelliousrose on January 09, 2012, 06:36:55 PM
Congratulations! I am thinking about bailing on the ATL myself; can't seem to find a job here not in restaurants, and since I got a great new job and then the company laid off 75 people two months later, I am frustrated. I was actually going to Oregon myself some years ago; Van Duzer and I were talking, but it fell through due to the economy. *sighs*

I am so glad you have offers, and I am thrilled for you!
Title: Re: Employment seeking
Post by: Foodgeek on January 10, 2012, 08:07:26 AM
This board will feel the loss, that's for certain.  I agree with the renting idea.  What's the school district?

Sprayberry. Our house is just off of Canton rd. in a subdivision, close to Barrett Parkway and close to the square. Not sure about renting, since I'm sure we'd have to hire a property management company, what with being on the other side of the country and all, but these are some of the decisions that we have to make.

I will miss everyone here, of course, but many of you are already friends with me on Facebook (pm me if you want to add me but don't know my real name.) I'll be sure to stop back here and visit from time to time.  :)
Title: Re: Employment seeking
Post by: Girly on January 10, 2012, 02:11:19 PM
Congrats! Moving to the other side of the US map will be such a great adventure. I've always wanted the opportunity to do that and have so far been stuck in the SE! What kind of time frame are you looking at for moving?

I have the name of a woman who lives in Acworth who does property management. I've done some work with her and have been very impressed. She may just do small apartments (she managed our property on Moreland before we took it over) but if you're interested, LMK. She charged us according to rent - took a percentage.

Sending you a FB request now.

 :D
Title: Re: Employment seeking
Post by: Foodgeek on February 02, 2012, 08:53:37 AM
House is on the market. For anyone interested, or if you just want to take a look at our house out of curiosity, here's a link to a virtual tour: http://www.cpgtours.com/tour.php?id=18982 (furniture not included, of course.)
Title: Re: Employment seeking
Post by: Mike GadgetGeek Stock on February 02, 2012, 01:22:53 PM
House is on the market. For anyone interested, or if you just want to take a look at our house out of curiosity, here's a link to a virtual tour: http://www.cpgtours.com/tour.php?id=18982 (furniture not included, of course.)

Nice house.  I hope it sells well for you. 

....
Title: Re: Employment seeking
Post by: The_Scientist on February 09, 2012, 01:20:21 PM
A quick update on progress:
House is ready for a buyer to present himself.
New digs are located in Eugene.
Movers will load us up in a couple of weeks.
Title: Re: Employment seeking
Post by: topjobfinder.com on May 22, 2012, 01:10:51 PM
Scientist, let us know your specialties and experience so we can keep an eye out.

I am a polymer chemist with a Master's degree in polymer science. I have 20 years of experience in formulation, meaning I combine polymers with curing agents, catalysts, fillers and various other additives to create finished products for end users. For the last five years I have been developing spray elastomers (think truck bed liners like Rhino Liner), but I have also worked on insulating foam, epoxy coatings and adhesives, rubber and PVC sealers.

Yeah, I'm a laugh riot at parties.  ???

I own an executive search firm and have an opportunity here in Atlanta for a polymer chemist with pvc experience.  Please send me your resume to david@topjobfinders.com.