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Post by: Hrothgar on September 07, 2011, 04:40:33 PM
After more than four years of trying and intervening battles with testicular cancer and related infertility, it is with immense pride and relief that I announce that Lindsay and I are expecting not one but TWO little foodies! ;D We are about eight and a half weeks along, with a due date of April 15 (Tax Day!). As such, we've tentatively named them (Uncle) Sam and IRiS, though I'm pretty sure those names won't stick (not least because we won't know genders until around Thanksgiving). And since it's twins, they'll likely come earlier than that anyway.

Now, we would be heartbroken if these kids were picky eaters. And based on some recent studies (http://www.npr.org/2011/08/08/139033757/babys-palate-and-food-memories-shaped-before-birth), we can help limit that possibility while they're in the womb (and breastfeeding) by having mama (and thus the babies) experience  as many different tastes as possible early on. So you'll certainly see us out hitting all the ethnic way points, and then some.

Alas, right now she's enduring wall-to-wall morning (and afternoon, and evening) sickness, which means eating just about anything is a dicey proposition. :P
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Post by: Jmolinari on September 07, 2011, 05:16:03 PM
That's fantastic! Congrats!
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Post by: HaagenDazs on September 07, 2011, 07:30:23 PM
TWO?!  ;D

Congratulations!
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Post by: Northside Food on September 07, 2011, 07:44:37 PM
Congratulations! We've been struggling with infertility ourselves, so I'm always happy to see other couples finally beat it.
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Post by: The_Scientist on September 07, 2011, 08:07:22 PM
Woo-hoo! Congrats.
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Post by: LizR on September 07, 2011, 08:38:56 PM
That is wonderful news! Hope your wife feels better soon.

I'm not sure I buy those studies. I ate all kinds of stuff like I usually do and was convinced that I'd have a small foodie from day one. When she started eating solids I made baby food, tried to give her avocado, lots of garlicky things, slightly spicy things, good variety of things, etc. No dice. I wouldn't say she is exactly picky - she likes lots of veggies ad we eat a green salad every night, but I think I tried too hard and made food too important, despite kind of knowing that I was doing it at the time. So, her five year-old items of choice at Community Q tonight: a grilled cheese and a side of mac and cheese. The server even made a joke about her being from Wisconsin.

I see it as an early indicator of what it is to be a parent. Children are going to be their own people. And that is how it is supposed to be.  :)
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Post by: Hrothgar on September 07, 2011, 10:13:15 PM
That is wonderful news! Hope your wife feels better soon.

I'm not sure I buy those studies. I ate all kinds of stuff like I usually do and was convinced that I'd have a small foodie from day one. When she started eating solids I made baby food, tried to give her avocado, lots of garlicky things, slightly spicy things, good variety of things, etc. No dice. I wouldn't say she is exactly picky - she likes lots of veggies ad we eat a green salad every night, but I think I tried too hard and made food too important, despite kind of knowing that I was doing it at the time. So, her five year-old items of choice at Community Q tonight: a grilled cheese and a side of mac and cheese. The server even made a joke about her being from Wisconsin.

I see it as an early indicator of what it is to be a parent. Children are going to be their own people. And that is how it is supposed to be.  :)

Points well taken, and honestly as long as we get 20 fingers and 20 toes I could care less if all they eat is Easy Mac and Cocoa Puffs (not that they're going to get us to buy that crap for them). But I figure what could it hurt to try while they're in utero and breastfeeding? It's not like we'll be straying that far from what we usually do, i.e., eating adventurously (obviously avoiding/limiting things that could be detrimental).

Once they start on solid foods, we're not going to lean on them to eat things that they clearly hate. The rule growing up in my house was try everything once. If you didn't like it, you didn't have to eat it (although you might be asked to try it again a year or so down the road). And even then I was a BIG fan of mac & cheese and grilled cheese (and still am ;)).
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Post by: mikeamor on September 07, 2011, 11:26:54 PM
Wow.
The circle of life goes on.
Congratulations!
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Post by: Jmolinari on September 08, 2011, 06:05:55 AM
Once they start on solid foods, we're not going to lean on them to eat things that they clearly hate. The rule growing up in my house was try everything once. If you didn't like it, you didn't have to eat it (although you might be asked to try it again a year or so down the road). And even then I was a BIG fan of mac & cheese and grilled cheese (and still am ;)).

That's what we do with our 2 year old (who eats everything and like a horse). If she says no, we explain she has to try it and doesn't have to eat it if she doesn't like it. Usually works and she then eats the item or goes on with her fruit or something else.
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Post by: Larkemon on September 08, 2011, 06:44:05 AM
Once they start on solid foods, we're not going to lean on them to eat things that they clearly hate. The rule growing up in my house was try everything once. If you didn't like it, you didn't have to eat it (although you might be asked to try it again a year or so down the road). And even then I was a BIG fan of mac & cheese and grilled cheese (and still am ;)).

That's what we do with our 2 year old (who eats everything and like a horse). If she says no, we explain she has to try it and doesn't have to eat it if she doesn't like it. Usually works and she then eats the item or goes on with her fruit or something else.

+1 We have the same rule.  Both of ours have to take one bite.  Then they can have more or just eat the rest of the food.  We don't wait a year between trying again though.  Usually just a couple weeks.

Congrats Hrothgar!  We had problems with fertility as well, so it's always heartwarming to hear of people overcoming it.   Not that you guys are soliciting advice, but one food related bit that I found true... when they are little, you can take them anywhere.  They mostly sleep or suck on a bottle, passy, etc, but most importantly are quiet and don't disturb others.  It's when they get a little older or get mobile that our eating out options became limited.  That was mostly out of consideration for other diners and sanity for ourselves! :)
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Post by: Mike GadgetGeek Stock on September 08, 2011, 10:35:42 AM
Once they start on solid foods, we're not going to lean on them to eat things that they clearly hate. The rule growing up in my house was try everything once. If you didn't like it, you didn't have to eat it (although you might be asked to try it again a year or so down the road). And even then I was a BIG fan of mac & cheese and grilled cheese (and still am ;)).

That's what we do with our 2 year old (who eats everything and like a horse). If she says no, we explain she has to try it and doesn't have to eat it if she doesn't like it. Usually works and she then eats the item or goes on with her fruit or something else. 

There are times when I wish I had NOT introduced niece Cassie to spicy/hot things, I got her a bunch of the teeny Tabasco bottles when we last were in New Orleans..   "She puts that Sh&t on everything", including toast, cereal and who knows what else.  She tried the Ghost pepper jelly we brought back from Seattle and could tolerate it in very small bits.  She still retains her ability to taste and smell the difference between herbs and things but I'm afraid I've led her at 7yrs old in the HOT direction, she carries a bottle of that Tabasco in her lunch bag.         LOL.

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Post by: LizR on September 08, 2011, 12:03:26 PM
Once they start on solid foods, we're not going to lean on them to eat things that they clearly hate. The rule growing up in my house was try everything once. If you didn't like it, you didn't have to eat it (although you might be asked to try it again a year or so down the road). And even then I was a BIG fan of mac & cheese and grilled cheese (and still am ;)).

That's what we do with our 2 year old (who eats everything and like a horse). If she says no, we explain she has to try it and doesn't have to eat it if she doesn't like it. Usually works and she then eats the item or goes on with her fruit or something else. 

There are times when I wish I had NOT introduced niece Cassie to spicy/hot things, I got her a bunch of the teeny Tabasco bottles when we last were in New Orleans..   "She puts that Sh&t on everything", including toast, cereal and who knows what else.  She tried the Ghost pepper jelly we brought back from Seattle and could tolerate it in very small bits.  She still retains her ability to taste and smell the difference between herbs and things but I'm afraid I've led her at 7yrs old in the HOT direction, she carries a bottle of that Tabasco in her lunch bag.         LOL.

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Now that is funny!

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Post by: totm on September 08, 2011, 01:39:00 PM
There are times when I wish I had NOT introduced niece Cassie to spicy/hot things, I got her a bunch of the teeny Tabasco bottles when we last were in New Orleans..   "She puts that Sh&t on everything", including toast, cereal and who knows what else.  She tried the Ghost pepper jelly we brought back from Seattle and could tolerate it in very small bits.  She still retains her ability to taste and smell the difference between herbs and things but I'm afraid I've led her at 7yrs old in the HOT direction, she carries a bottle of that Tabasco in her lunch bag.         LOL.
But to me Tabasco is mostly vinegar.  Maybe she'll gravitate to sour beers when the time is right.

Congrats Hrothgar!
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Post by: Mike GadgetGeek Stock on September 08, 2011, 01:57:33 PM
There are times when I wish I had NOT introduced niece Cassie to spicy/hot things, I got her a bunch of the teeny Tabasco bottles when we last were in New Orleans..   "She puts that Sh&t on everything", including toast, cereal and who knows what else.  She tried the Ghost pepper jelly we brought back from Seattle and could tolerate it in very small bits.  She still retains her ability to taste and smell the difference between herbs and things but I'm afraid I've led her at 7yrs old in the HOT direction, she carries a bottle of that Tabasco in her lunch bag.         LOL.
But to me Tabasco is mostly vinegar.  Maybe she'll gravitate to sour beers when the time is right.

Congrats Hrothgar! 

I agree with the Tabasco, but she eats sliced unseeded Jalapenos' and then there is that Ghost Pepper jelly that gives me the hiccups but she puts a tasting spoon in her mouth and says "yum".    8)

It will be a day or two before she has beer.  But those sour tastes are things she likes to explore-- like my selection of vinegars...

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Post by: Chocoholic on September 08, 2011, 03:57:29 PM
Twins!  Great news!  Pretty soon we'll have to start having some 285 FAMILY events, so that everyone's little ones can experience restaurant cuisine beyond that served at Chuck E. Cheese.  Blech.

BTW, my experience with the in utero conditioning of the baby's palate was that it didn't matter what I ate.  I couldn't eat any cooked vegetables with my first--the smell alone literally made me gag--but she is now a veggie eater extraordinaire of both the cooked and uncooked variety.  If what I ate had made any difference, she'd eat only pizza and pasta.   ;D
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Post by: Hrothgar on September 08, 2011, 04:16:05 PM
Congrats Hrothgar!  We had problems with fertility as well, so it's always heartwarming to hear of people overcoming it.   Not that you guys are soliciting advice, but one food related bit that I found true... when they are little, you can take them anywhere.  They mostly sleep or suck on a bottle, passy, etc, but most importantly are quiet and don't disturb others.  It's when they get a little older or get mobile that our eating out options became limited.  That was mostly out of consideration for other diners and sanity for ourselves! :)

Yeah, this is a big topic of debate here in Decatur where we live, which is particularly afflicted with upscale restaurants frequented by parents with young kids. I imagine we'll see how our kids handle it at all ages before we make that call.

Twins!  Great news!  Pretty soon we'll have to start having some 285 FAMILY events, so that everyone's little ones can experience restaurant cuisine beyond that served at Chuck E. Cheese.  Blech.

BTW, my experience with the in utero conditioning of the baby's palate was that it didn't matter what I ate.  I couldn't eat any cooked vegetables with my first--the smell alone literally made me gag--but she is now a veggie eater extraordinaire of both the cooked and uncooked variety.  If what I ate had made any difference, she'd eat only pizza and pasta.   ;D

I remember dining with y'all and the wee one in question back when we lived in Smyrna. And I believe it was pizza we ate. ;)

Did you have morning sickness all through pregnancy? Lindsay's kind of banking on the hope that it will even out once she gets through the first trimester, as many folks (and books) have assured us that is the case. But I've also heard horror stories about it lasting through the entire pregnancy. Keeping those to myself. :-X
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Post by: Foodgeek on September 08, 2011, 06:01:09 PM
My mother had morning sickness pretty much through her entire pregnancy for all 4 of the times she was pregnant, or so she tells me. Crackers by the bed and make sure to get some ginger candies from an Asian market.

Also, my mother drank one beer every day when she was pregnant with me, so let that be a warning or a recommendation. Not sure what she ate, but I wouldn't be surprised if she had matzo ball soup, chopped chicken livers and creamed herring on a regular basis, as those are some of her comfort foods. I'm pretty sure my food tastes developed independently, because I didn't really like most of those until I was at least a teenager.

Conventional wisdom doesn't seem to hold any sway here, so go with your gut and we'll be happy to see the little Hrothgars when they get here!
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Post by: ali0112 on September 08, 2011, 09:51:26 PM
Congratulations from a mother of twins, who just happen to be excellent eaters!  :)
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Post by: Chocoholic on September 09, 2011, 02:34:01 PM

I remember dining with y'all and the wee one in question back when we lived in Smyrna. And I believe it was pizza we ate. ;)

Did you have morning sickness all through pregnancy? Lindsay's kind of banking on the hope that it will even out once she gets through the first trimester, as many folks (and books) have assured us that is the case. But I've also heard horror stories about it lasting through the entire pregnancy. Keeping those to myself. :-X

That "wee one" is now in third grade and is only about a foot and a half shorter than me--maybe less!   :o  Our next "wee one" just started kindergarten!

I was lucky enough not to have morning sickness either time, although I did have the cooked veggies aversion I mentioned, but the most unusual thing that happened to me was that I completely lost my taste for coffee.  For those who don't know me very well, I go to bed every night looking forward to my first cup the next morning.  It is my happy place.  And that was gone.  The truly evil part of it was that I did NOT lose the love of the aroma of coffee, so I was always wanting it, then taking a sip and almost throwing up.

Don't worry though.  The morning sickness and other pregnancy-related symptoms are nothing compared to recovering from the actual birth!  On second thought, don't tell Lindsay that....   :-X
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Post by: Hrothgar on November 28, 2011, 01:48:21 PM
Survey (aka definitive gender U/S at Emory) says.... DOUBLE DUDES!
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Post by: Jmolinari on November 28, 2011, 02:31:28 PM
double trouble!
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Post by: HaagenDazs on November 28, 2011, 02:56:09 PM
Oh dear...  ;D
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Post by: rwcohen on November 28, 2011, 05:08:50 PM
Congrats to both of you, what are the names gonna be?
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Post by: Mike GadgetGeek Stock on November 28, 2011, 06:30:38 PM


Congratulations to both of you.  My Mom wanted twins or two boys when I was born----  She changed her mind about 18 months after I was born.     She often said " and imagine I wanted two of you"...   

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Post by: Hrothgar on December 05, 2011, 03:29:12 PM
Thanks, everyone! Not divulging names until the fellas actually arrive, since in my experience revealing early only leads to bad luck and/or people criticizing, overusing, or outright stealing one's choices. :-X
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Post by: MadBob on December 10, 2011, 07:17:54 AM
Congratulations, and name those babies what YOU (as a couple) like, not what the in-laws/out-laws are going to expect you to do regarding Family Tradition. They will be yours to love and yours to laugh about how you came to the decision you decide on (uncle Sam and IRiS etc) as far as the names go! Best of wishes and good luck in the upcoming months, I trust all will go well....
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Post by: Hrothgar on February 29, 2012, 03:35:36 PM
We're at 33 weeks and all is well. Baby shower on Sunday. Lindsay's getting ready to start working from home next week, and it's a good thing because this week it has really started being a struggle for her to shuttle herself to work and spend the day in an office chair.

Last week was exciting because we got word that both twins got spots in one of the most desirable daycare/early learning centers in our area. Also, CNN actually spent half a day filming us for a Sanjay Gupta segment on male infertility (which of course was distilled down to a few words from each of us and some B-roll of me futzing around in the kitchen). Ran this morning. You can see it here:

http://cnn.com/video/data/2.0/video/bestoftv/2012/02/29/exp-point-sanjay-gupta.cnn.html
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Post by: Girly on February 29, 2012, 04:18:03 PM
We're at 33 weeks and all is well. Baby shower on Sunday. Lindsay's getting ready to start working from home next week, and it's a good thing because this week it has really started being a struggle for her to shuttle herself to work and spend the day in an office chair.

Last week was exciting because we got word that both twins got spots in one of the most desirable daycare/early learning centers in our area. Also, CNN actually spent half a day filming us for a Sanjay Gupta segment on male infertility (which of course was distilled down to a few words from each of us and some B-roll of me futzing around in the kitchen). Ran this morning. You can see it here:

http://cnn.com/video/data/2.0/video/bestoftv/2012/02/29/exp-point-sanjay-gupta.cnn.html

What a cool thing to be able to show them when they're older! They're already supa-staahs ;)
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Post by: Picklefactory on February 29, 2012, 06:24:41 PM
Congratulations Hrothgar and Lindsay! Thanks for sharing the CNN clip and hope that all continues to go well with the pregnancy. It's a small world, I work with Lindsay. She will know me as the woman that art directs her department's annual photo shoot.
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Post by: Hrothgar on March 01, 2012, 10:51:39 AM
Thanks everyone for the kind words! It seems they subsequently aired a better version of the piece that focuses more on our personal story:

http://www.cnn.com/video/#/video/health/2012/02/29/pkg-gupta-male-infertility.cnn

Picklefactory: Lindsay definitely knows you! She was mildly embarrassed that coworkers would see this, but I said, "Uh, you know this was on CNN, right? Kinda too late to be shy."  ;) I should also note that I have cousins in Michigan that do, in fact, own and operate a pickle factory.
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Post by: HaagenDazs on March 01, 2012, 06:53:16 PM
How cool!  I'm guessing I'm not the first one to say you have a resemblance to Paul Giamatti.  ;D
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Post by: LizR on March 01, 2012, 10:36:39 PM
Very cool for you guys! Good luck with the wee ones. It is hard at first, even with one, but it does get better as time progresses. Better and better. Kids can be so difficult at first but also so cool later on (for a while anyway until they are teenagers, I fear).
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Post by: Hrothgar on March 02, 2012, 10:17:04 AM
How cool!  I'm guessing I'm not the first one to say you have a resemblance to Paul Giamatti.  ;D

You are actually, but....thanks? ;)
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Post by: terry on March 02, 2012, 03:52:10 PM
I may need to contact your doctor. My wife and I have been trying for a while now.  :'(
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Post by: MadBob on March 04, 2012, 08:30:06 AM
Remember the mantra:  "Practice makes perfect"   Or, "If at first you don't succeed, try, try again". And my favorite: "There I was, just having fun pokin fun at her, and then she took me serious".  8)