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Title: ProQ Cold Smoke Generator - Pure genius.
Post by: Jmolinari on July 10, 2010, 01:40:13 PM
I just got mine for Father's day. Using it today to make a cold smoked salmon. It's generating nice smoke and basically 0 heat. This is just pure genius. It was about $30 shipped from England.

I'm also smoking some salt.

http://www.macsbbq.co.uk/CSG.html  (currently having problems)
http://proq.forumotion.com/cold-smoking-f22/proq-cold-smoke-generator-t700.htm
Title: Re: ProQ Cold Smoke Generator - Pure genius.
Post by: Mike GadgetGeek Stock on July 10, 2010, 02:27:34 PM
I just got mine for Father's day. Using it today to make a cold smoked salmon. It's generating nice smoke and basically 0 heat. This is just pure genius. It was about $30 shipped from England.

I'm also smoking some salt.

http://www.macsbbq.co.uk/CSG.html  (currently having problems)
http://proq.forumotion.com/cold-smoking-f22/proq-cold-smoke-generator-t700.htm

Very interesting Jason..   I didn't see a movie (or perhaps you have to log on to see it ? ), but I am interested...

So how do you light it, and does it keep going of it's own accord ?

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Title: Re: ProQ Cold Smoke Generator - Pure genius.
Post by: Barnum on July 10, 2010, 02:30:07 PM
more than a little interested, would love to be able to smoke salmon!

I followed the live link and a link from there... trying to figure out what you got for $30... the smoke generator itself?  How does it work?  Guess you then have to have/build something for the smoking chamber itself?
Title: Re: ProQ Cold Smoke Generator - Pure genius.
Post by: Jmolinari on July 10, 2010, 02:39:25 PM
Anything can be used as a smoking chamber. I used my smoker (not lit obviously, just as a container) You can probably use a gas grill that isn't on...anything really. Some people use it in a cardboard box.

GG2, i thought you'd like it! You light it at the beginning with a tea candle, then once it's going, it keeps itself going for about 10 hours.

I just took my salmon (steelhead trout from costco) out after a 5 hour smoke. A quick bite tells me it'll be frikkin delicious. I hear though you're supposed to let the food "settle" and equilibrate for about 24 hrs after cold smoking. I think it'll be even better tomorrow morning.

Not that to keep the salmon cool (below 85) for the duration in our 90+ deg. georgia day, i lay the salmon on ice packs that were in a zip bag, and put that in the smoker.

Take a look here for a quick overview:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=43nMHZQukwE

and these guys are awesome!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GnYqUt6tbpw

For $30 you get the special steel spiral cage, and a 100g bag of sawdust. Additional sawdust can be purchased from Butcher-packer for about $10 for 5lbs...i haven't tried it, but i hope it's the correct "fineness"
Title: Re: ProQ Cold Smoke Generator - Pure genius.
Post by: Jmolinari on July 10, 2010, 02:40:36 PM
It's going to take a lot of experimenting to get the brine or dry curing time correct as well as any additions....this time i did a very simple salt/sugar brine overnight....next time i'll add spices/herbs...
Title: Re: ProQ Cold Smoke Generator - Pure genius.
Post by: Mike GadgetGeek Stock on July 10, 2010, 02:49:44 PM
Anything can be used as a smoking chamber. I used my smoker (not lit obviously, just as a container) You can probably use a gas grill that isn't on...anything really. Some people use it in a cardboard box.

GG2, i thought you'd like it! You light it at the beginning with a tea candle, then once it's going, it keeps itself going for about 10 hours.

I just took my salmon (steelhead trout from costco) out after a 5 hour smoke. A quick bite tells me it'll be frikkin delicious. I hear though you're supposed to let the food "settle" and equilibrate for about 24 hrs after cold smoking. I think it'll be even better tomorrow morning.

Not that to keep the salmon cool (below 85) for the duration in our 90+ deg. georgia day, i lay the salmon on ice packs that were in a zip bag, and put that in the smoker.

Take a look here for a quick overview:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=43nMHZQukwE

and these guys are awesome!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GnYqUt6tbpw

For $30 you get the special steel spiral cage, and a 100g bag of sawdust. Additional sawdust can be purchased from Butcher-packer for about $10 for 5lbs...i haven't tried it, but i hope it's the correct "fineness"

Here is a place to get a variety of sawdust for smoking... It is more expensive, but there is a variety..

http://www.jannsnetcraft.com/smokers/918264.aspx (http://www.jannsnetcraft.com/smokers/918264.aspx)

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Title: Re: ProQ Cold Smoke Generator - Pure genius.
Post by: Jmolinari on July 10, 2010, 02:54:53 PM
Those are chips. This thing uses sawdust. Thanks though
Title: Re: ProQ Cold Smoke Generator - Pure genius.
Post by: Mike GadgetGeek Stock on July 10, 2010, 02:59:35 PM
Those are chips. This thing uses sawdust. Thanks though

Jason, I have some.. honestly it is sawdust..  almost fine enough to push through a regular strainer..

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Title: Re: ProQ Cold Smoke Generator - Pure genius.
Post by: Jmolinari on July 10, 2010, 03:06:08 PM
hrmmm...that is very interesting then b/c 1.75 lbs for $4 is fine...since it takes 100g for 8-10 hours...1.75lbs is almost 8 full loads...that's $0.50 per load...not bad at all.
Is there a local store or do i have to pay for shipping?

Can you take a closeup picture of it i want to see how it compares to the one that came with it...i took a picture before i used it for future reference.
Title: Re: ProQ Cold Smoke Generator - Pure genius.
Post by: Mike GadgetGeek Stock on July 10, 2010, 03:08:52 PM
hrmmm...that is very interesting then b/c 1.75 lbs for $4 is fine...since it takes 100g for 8-10 hours...1.75lbs is almost 8 full loads...that's $0.50 per load...not bad at all.
Is there a local store or do i have to pay for shipping?

Can you take a closeup picture of it i want to see how it compares to the one that came with it...i took a picture before i used it for future reference.


I'm on it Jason..  I'm eating a King of Pops, and my hand is all gooey..   LOL


(http://aroundhere.net/Mike2/285Fpics/chipsordust22.jpg)



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Title: Re: ProQ Cold Smoke Generator - Pure genius.
Post by: Mike GadgetGeek Stock on July 10, 2010, 03:19:20 PM
hrmmm...that is very interesting then b/c 1.75 lbs for $4 is fine...since it takes 100g for 8-10 hours...1.75lbs is almost 8 full loads...that's $0.50 per load...not bad at all.
Is there a local store or do i have to pay for shipping?

Can you take a closeup picture of it i want to see how it compares to the one that came with it...i took a picture before i used it for future reference.


The wood may be available at Bass Pro Shops  ?   It has been in the past...

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Title: Re: ProQ Cold Smoke Generator - Pure genius.
Post by: Jmolinari on July 10, 2010, 07:29:05 PM
thanks GG. It looks a little bit coarser...nothing a whiz in the old spice grinder couldn't fix!
Take a look. These are the proq chips:

(http://lh4.ggpht.com/_Qe4KleSN3Go/TDkQMA9y0AI/AAAAAAAABmY/0AZ-7WeL8QM/s800/IMG_9034.jpg)
Title: Re: ProQ Cold Smoke Generator - Pure genius.
Post by: Mike GadgetGeek Stock on July 11, 2010, 02:25:34 AM
thanks GG. It looks a little bit coarser...nothing a whiz in the old spice grinder couldn't fix!
Take a look. These are the proq chips:

(http://lh4.ggpht.com/_Qe4KleSN3Go/TDkQMA9y0AI/AAAAAAAABmY/0AZ-7WeL8QM/s800/IMG_9034.jpg)

You are right, they are finer.

Hmmm  I know about a big cabinet shop in Loganville that might save some specific types of shavings for me..  they do commercial and residential cabinet door that are usually Oak or Cedar or some other wood. I doubt if he has the other flavors though.. ?

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Title: Re: ProQ Cold Smoke Generator - Pure genius.
Post by: Jmolinari on July 11, 2010, 07:49:45 AM
i'm always worried about wood that's been treated from wood working shops though....
i'll try the butcher-packer chips and report back
Title: Re: ProQ Cold Smoke Generator - Pure genius.
Post by: Jmolinari on July 11, 2010, 09:35:08 AM
I happend to find an old container of Cameron's Stovetop Smoker chips in a box in the garage...they look quite similar to the proq smoking chips. Too bad the Cameron's are a rip off.
Title: Re: ProQ Cold Smoke Generator - Pure genius.
Post by: Mike GadgetGeek Stock on July 11, 2010, 09:42:11 AM
I happend to find an old container of Cameron's Stovetop Smoker chips in a box in the garage...they look quite similar to the proq smoking chips. Too bad the Cameron's are a rip off. 


The Cameron wood chips are way too pricey.. I got what came with the Cameron smoker and went directly to something else..

Actually I don't find the Cameron too useful ?

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Title: Re: ProQ Cold Smoke Generator - Pure genius.
Post by: Jmolinari on July 11, 2010, 10:09:41 AM
yah, i think i got rid of my cameron smoker....guess these chips were hiding in a box of my wood chunks
Title: Re: ProQ Cold Smoke Generator - Pure genius.
Post by: Loundry on July 11, 2010, 12:43:50 PM
One day, someone defined to me the word "elegance" to mean "simple and effective".  This device is therefore elegant.  And for 30 bucks!  I remember that line from the book Charcuterie that reads: "Commercial cold-smoking solutions cost as much as a car."  This device is a definite go, but I think I'm going to wait until it's really cold outside.  It seems like a good way to introduce more seasonality into my lifestyle.
Title: Re: ProQ Cold Smoke Generator - Pure genius.
Post by: Jmolinari on July 11, 2010, 03:39:41 PM
Elegant is a good description of this product.
We ate the smoked salmon this morning. It was outstanding. Really really awesome. Time to start experimenting with spices in the cure/brine.
(http://lh5.ggpht.com/_Qe4KleSN3Go/TDorjCceutI/AAAAAAAABm0/FBMvXOZI-hk/s800/IMG_9077.jpg)

I also made a hot smoked side of salmon, for variety, ya know?
(http://lh6.ggpht.com/_Qe4KleSN3Go/TDorjORPLTI/AAAAAAAABm4/MF0tWBZixw8/s800/IMG_9080.jpg)

And this is how they ended up. With homegrown maters and cukes.
(http://lh6.ggpht.com/_Qe4KleSN3Go/TDorjefu5NI/AAAAAAAABm8/bo-SDhRsPUg/s800/IMG_9081.jpg)
Title: Re: ProQ Cold Smoke Generator - Pure genius.
Post by: Mike GadgetGeek Stock on July 11, 2010, 04:24:47 PM
Elegant is a good description of this product.
We ate the smoked salmon this morning. It was outstanding. Really really awesome. Time to start experimenting with spices in the cure/brine.

I also made a hot smoked side of salmon, for variety, ya know?

And this is how they ended up. With homegrown maters and cukes.

I want to do this !!!!!

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Title: Re: ProQ Cold Smoke Generator - Pure genius.
Post by: Barnum on July 11, 2010, 05:08:39 PM
Elegant is a good description of this product.
We ate the smoked salmon this morning. It was outstanding. Really really awesome. Time to start experimenting with spices in the cure/brine.
(http://lh5.ggpht.com/_Qe4KleSN3Go/TDorjCceutI/AAAAAAAABm0/FBMvXOZI-hk/s800/IMG_9077.jpg)

I also made a hot smoked side of salmon, for variety, ya know?
(http://lh6.ggpht.com/_Qe4KleSN3Go/TDorjORPLTI/AAAAAAAABm4/MF0tWBZixw8/s800/IMG_9080.jpg)

And this is how they ended up. With homegrown maters and cukes.
(http://lh6.ggpht.com/_Qe4KleSN3Go/TDorjefu5NI/AAAAAAAABm8/bo-SDhRsPUg/s800/IMG_9081.jpg)

Dam you JM... Dam you...  Mine is on order.
Title: Re: ProQ Cold Smoke Generator - Pure genius.
Post by: Mike GadgetGeek Stock on July 11, 2010, 05:27:25 PM
Elegant is a good description of this product.
We ate the smoked salmon this morning. It was outstanding. Really really awesome. Time to start experimenting with spices in the cure/brine.

I also made a hot smoked side of salmon, for variety, ya know?

And this is how they ended up. With homegrown maters and cukes.

Dam you JM... Dam you...  Mine is on order.

Okay, the hell with the budget..   what is the link where I order it ?

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Title: Re: ProQ Cold Smoke Generator - Pure genius.
Post by: Barnum on July 11, 2010, 05:38:03 PM
Elegant is a good description of this product.
We ate the smoked salmon this morning. It was outstanding. Really really awesome. Time to start experimenting with spices in the cure/brine.

I also made a hot smoked side of salmon, for variety, ya know?

And this is how they ended up. With homegrown maters and cukes.

Dam you JM... Dam you...  Mine is on order.

Okay, the hell with the budget..   what is the link where I order it ?

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http://www.macsbbq.co.uk/OrderROW.html
Title: Re: ProQ Cold Smoke Generator - Pure genius.
Post by: Mike GadgetGeek Stock on July 11, 2010, 05:47:40 PM
Elegant is a good description of this product.
We ate the smoked salmon this morning. It was outstanding. Really really awesome. Time to start experimenting with spices in the cure/brine.

I also made a hot smoked side of salmon, for variety, ya know?

And this is how they ended up. With homegrown maters and cukes.

Dam you JM... Dam you...  Mine is on order.

Okay, the hell with the budget..   what is the link where I order it ?

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http://www.macsbbq.co.uk/OrderROW.html


so it's $40.00 + with shipping and all ?

I ordered it.. Do NOT TELL CP that I have ordered it..   

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Title: Re: ProQ Cold Smoke Generator - Pure genius.
Post by: Jmolinari on July 11, 2010, 06:01:31 PM
It's like 26 pounds, so, yeah, about $40...man, this thing is so worth it. First salmon i made and it's already better than the ACME and Kirkland stuff from Costco. I'm sure it can get even better.

We should share brines/cures and smoking times. I'll add mine to the topic GG made.
Title: Re: ProQ Cold Smoke Generator - Pure genius.
Post by: Mike GadgetGeek Stock on July 11, 2010, 06:22:02 PM
It's like 26 pounds, so, yeah, about $40...man, this thing is so worth it. First salmon i made and it's already better than the ACME and Kirkland stuff from Costco. I'm sure it can get even better.

We should share brines/cures and smoking times. I'll add mine to the topic GG made.

I have already got some strange "looks" from CP when I told her I spent $40.00 on a smoker..   Like we don't have a smoker already    ?


So I'll weather the storm, and wait for my "cool" smoker to  arrive.    then Katie, bar the door...  

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Title: Re: ProQ Cold Smoke Generator - Pure genius.
Post by: Jmolinari on July 11, 2010, 07:08:31 PM
Once she tries the product she'll be a convert!
Title: Re: ProQ Cold Smoke Generator - Pure genius.
Post by: Loundry on July 12, 2010, 07:07:51 PM
Four words, Jason.  Om, nom, nom, and nom.
Title: Re: ProQ Cold Smoke Generator - Pure genius.
Post by: Mike GadgetGeek Stock on July 14, 2010, 07:22:01 PM


I am waiting for my smoker..   then I'm going to do catfish ..  Cold smoked catfish..

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Title: Re: ProQ Cold Smoke Generator - Pure genius.
Post by: Jmolinari on July 14, 2010, 07:37:25 PM


I am waiting for my smoker..   then I'm going to do catfish ..  Cold smoked catfish..

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Interesting...tell us how it goes.
Title: Re: ProQ Cold Smoke Generator - Pure genius.
Post by: Mike GadgetGeek Stock on July 15, 2010, 12:47:01 PM


I am waiting for my smoker..   then I'm going to do catfish ..  Cold smoked catfish..

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Interesting...tell us how it goes. 

It has shipped.

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Title: Re: ProQ Cold Smoke Generator - Pure genius.
Post by: Barnum on July 15, 2010, 01:41:45 PM


I am waiting for my smoker..   then I'm going to do catfish ..  Cold smoked catfish..

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Interesting...tell us how it goes. 

It has shipped.

Yes, I got an email today saying it has "posted" with the royal mail.  Guess you'll probably get it first because you're closer...
Title: Re: ProQ Cold Smoke Generator - Pure genius.
Post by: Mike GadgetGeek Stock on July 17, 2010, 07:25:56 PM


I am waiting for my smoker..   then I'm going to do catfish ..  Cold smoked catfish..

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Interesting...tell us how it goes. 

It has shipped.

Yes, I got an email today saying it has "posted" with the royal mail.  Guess you'll probably get it first because you're closer...

I'm sure that 40 miles means something to someone, but I hope you get yours first..     I want to use my Little Chief as the smoker, since it has racks and all and I own it. Though I have a tall cardboard box that I could use and understand what we have to do.  I don't think I'm doing anything except possibly doing some tape-work on the Little chief, putting this smoker in the bottom and setting the timer.  ?

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Title: Re: ProQ Cold Smoke Generator - Pure genius.
Post by: tansu on July 19, 2010, 02:15:43 PM
Today
Title: Re: ProQ Cold Smoke Generator - Pure genius.
Post by: Mike GadgetGeek Stock on July 19, 2010, 03:48:53 PM
Today

Didja order one or did your arrive today ?

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Title: Re: ProQ Cold Smoke Generator - Pure genius.
Post by: Mike GadgetGeek Stock on July 21, 2010, 06:02:26 PM


Yes !

Now comes the interesting part..


(http://aroundhere.net/Mike2/285Fpics/BritPkg22.jpg)

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Title: Re: ProQ Cold Smoke Generator - Pure genius.
Post by: Jmolinari on July 21, 2010, 08:44:28 PM
GG FTW!
Title: Re: ProQ Cold Smoke Generator - Pure genius.
Post by: Barnum on July 22, 2010, 02:28:13 AM
See, told ya, you're closer and got it first.  Maybe today.
Title: Re: ProQ Cold Smoke Generator - Pure genius.
Post by: Mike GadgetGeek Stock on July 22, 2010, 11:21:02 AM
See, told ya, you're closer and got it first.  Maybe today.


Wow that sawdust is fine.

I feel certain that the cabinetmaker in Loganville can supply me with some untreated, pure wood, sawdust that will work in this interesting gadget..   He does solid oak, solid walnut, and solid cherry cabinets, if I can get assurances from him that there will be nothing in the sawdust but sawdust, I'd going for it..  I'll report back when I have stopped in there and spoken with the owner. This cabinet shop is a HUGE place and does commercial and residential cabinets etc. for the entire Southeast, I feel good about getting him to find some for us..  This is the same guy that planed by old Boos Cutting boards so that they are now flat again.

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Title: Re: ProQ Cold Smoke Generator - Pure genius.
Post by: Jmolinari on July 22, 2010, 02:00:34 PM
If he can supply some, let me know. Tell him this is for food use, so we really can't be messing around with additives and other wood protectors..
Title: Re: ProQ Cold Smoke Generator - Pure genius.
Post by: Jmolinari on July 23, 2010, 07:31:52 PM
i kept my fish on ice packs while smoking. It kept it around 68 deg.
Title: Re: ProQ Cold Smoke Generator - Pure genius.
Post by: Barnum on July 24, 2010, 05:41:32 AM
Yep, got mine on Thursday.  Even though I had realized it wasn't huge, it really seems smaller than I expected.  Now I guess I'm just waiting for it to cool off a little. 

Hopefully Mike will keep be in mind as he's searching out "smoking dust"
Title: Re: ProQ Cold Smoke Generator - Pure genius.
Post by: Mike GadgetGeek Stock on July 24, 2010, 06:40:37 AM
Yep, got mine on Thursday.  Even though I had realized it wasn't huge, it really seems smaller than I expected.  Now I guess I'm just waiting for it to cool off a little. 

Hopefully Mike will keep be in mind as he's searching out "smoking dust" 

I honestly think that the cabinet shop search is what will find the sawdust at the fineness that we want.  I agree with Jason that it has to be unadulterated wood made into sawdust, that said, I have thought of breaking out my old belt sander and getting a few toss-out pieces of real oak furniture and making my own. The folks that make that furniture have all kinds of bit and pieces laying around that they toss... 

If any of you have a better idea or a known place to get said sawdust, please post a hint here ?

I really don't know how long to smoke cheese ?  What an adventure..  :-)
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Title: Re: ProQ Cold Smoke Generator - Pure genius.
Post by: Lorenzo on July 24, 2010, 07:39:19 AM
Been following this.  Now I see how it works!--ingeniously simple.  That's a hell of a lot simpler than a big-ticket smoke generator that mechanically feeds sawdust from a hopper.
Title: Re: ProQ Cold Smoke Generator - Pure genius.
Post by: tansu on July 24, 2010, 08:46:22 AM
The sawdust matches sawdust from a table saw.
sawdust from a sander or bandsaw is too fine.
sawdust from a planer is too course.
I have throw away barrels full (to garden) in the past.
but now I am using poplar instead of oak, ash, or cherry.

www.tansullc.com
Title: Re: ProQ Cold Smoke Generator - Pure genius.
Post by: Mike GadgetGeek Stock on July 24, 2010, 09:35:31 AM
The sawdust matches sawdust from a table saw.
sawdust from a sander or bandsaw is too fine.
sawdust from a planer is too course.
I have throw away barrels full (to garden) in the past.
but now I am using poplar instead of oak, ash, or cherry.

www.tansullc.com

When you want to table saw up a bit of either oak or cherry, let us know, I think you will have some thankers..?

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Title: Re: ProQ Cold Smoke Generator - Pure genius.
Post by: Mike GadgetGeek Stock on July 24, 2010, 02:36:04 PM
Been following this.  Now I see how it works!--ingeniously simple.  That's a hell of a lot simpler than a big-ticket smoke generator that mechanically feeds sawdust from a hopper. 

We need another experimenter, you gonna buy one ?

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Title: Re: ProQ Cold Smoke Generator - Pure genius.
Post by: Mike GadgetGeek Stock on July 24, 2010, 02:45:47 PM
It's going to take a lot of experimenting to get the brine or dry curing time correct as well as any additions....this time i did a very simple salt/sugar brine overnight....next time i'll add spices/herbs... 


Please give me/us a short rendition of your overnight brine?  I'll figure the herbs and spices out..   ;)

I won't be doing this today, but soon...
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Title: Re: ProQ Cold Smoke Generator - Pure genius.
Post by: Jmolinari on July 24, 2010, 04:22:59 PM
GG, i'll start a separate thread for recipes for cold smoking, i just haven't had a chance to.


I'm going to order a pack of sawdust from butcher-packer. I'll let you guys know if it seems to be the right size..
Title: Re: ProQ Cold Smoke Generator - Pure genius.
Post by: Lorenzo on July 24, 2010, 04:44:32 PM
Sausagemaker sells sawdust, too.  I used to have a big bag but eventually tossed the remainder because I gave up smoking.
Title: Re: ProQ Cold Smoke Generator - Pure genius.
Post by: Mike GadgetGeek Stock on July 24, 2010, 05:06:39 PM
Sausagemaker sells sawdust, too.  I used to have a big bag but eventually tossed the remainder because I gave up smoking.


Not bad looking, I wish I could see it up close...?

http://www.sausagemaker.com/49310andnbsp5lbbaghickorysawdust.aspx (http://www.sausagemaker.com/49310andnbsp5lbbaghickorysawdust.aspx)

http://www.sausagemaker.com/49320hickorysawdust40lbs.aspx (http://www.sausagemaker.com/49320hickorysawdust40lbs.aspx)

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Title: Re: ProQ Cold Smoke Generator - Pure genius.
Post by: tansu on July 28, 2010, 03:48:58 PM
I tried planer got sawdust and it would not stay lit.
Then tried to food process it to finer with no luck.
Table saw dust is not worth it, unless it is a byproduct.
Title: Re: ProQ Cold Smoke Generator - Pure genius.
Post by: Jmolinari on July 28, 2010, 03:53:19 PM
I read about some people trying it with home made sawdust that didn't stay lit. They dried it in an warm oven (150 or 200 deg. F) for a little while and it worked well...i guess it has to be very dry.
Title: Re: ProQ Cold Smoke Generator - Pure genius.
Post by: Mike GadgetGeek Stock on July 28, 2010, 08:33:13 PM
I tried planer got sawdust and it would not stay lit.
Then tried to food process it to finer with no luck.
Table saw dust is not worth it, unless it is a byproduct.


I hate to be as dense as Mahogany, but so, what did you do?   Take a board or a log of Hickory and run it through a planer ?

and then those chips into a food processor  ?

And you tried cutting with with a table saw and it produced much less sawdust than it is worth? 

So..     what a bout a dull blade on the table saw ?   much more sawdust then your blade 'probley ?

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Title: Re: ProQ Cold Smoke Generator - Pure genius.
Post by: Mike GadgetGeek Stock on July 28, 2010, 08:37:57 PM
i'm always worried about wood that's been treated from wood working shops though....
i'll try the butcher-packer chips and report back 


Where did you see the butchers-packer chips ?   


ps. I have not even read the paperwork that came with my smoke generator yet..


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Title: Re: ProQ Cold Smoke Generator - Pure genius.
Post by: Jmolinari on July 28, 2010, 10:39:44 PM
http://www.butcher-packer.com/index.php?main_page=index&cPath=31_132&zenid=e43eab9e41dace5de2b13812f266b452
Title: Re: ProQ Cold Smoke Generator - Pure genius.
Post by: tansu on August 06, 2010, 09:44:52 AM
It seems that I was wrong about sawdust. I have been experimenting while waiting for fall weather.
I am using poplar because that is what I have for testing. The table saw dust looks like the supplied sawdust but would not stay lit, but the very fine dust from bandsaw works. So maybe belt sander dust would work.
Title: Re: ProQ Cold Smoke Generator - Pure genius.
Post by: Jmolinari on August 06, 2010, 09:47:00 AM
i wonder if maybe it'll last less b/c it's finer.
Title: Re: ProQ Cold Smoke Generator - Pure genius.
Post by: Northside Chip on August 06, 2010, 10:18:31 AM
I don't know a thing about smoking yet but sawdust... I know way too much about sawdust :P

Probably the most sawdust I can make (and still have it be small particulate and loose) is with a dado blade on my table saw... I crank out bags of dust in no time when running with my dado. Planers produce shavings, not dust so it would not necessarily work in it's place. My concern would be with what chemical treatments may have been used on today's lumber. I have some 30+ year old cedar and once I start working with it I will post to see who wants a go at it :)

NC
Title: Re: ProQ Cold Smoke Generator - Pure genius.
Post by: Barnum on August 06, 2010, 11:12:43 AM
My concern would be with what chemical treatments may have been used on today's lumber

I agree, but there some folks (such as the firewood dealer at Scott & N. Decatur) that sell hardwood logs (cherry, chestnut, etc..) for a couple bucks each that would certainly work.
Title: Re: ProQ Cold Smoke Generator - Pure genius.
Post by: tansu on August 06, 2010, 03:44:23 PM

i wonder if maybe it'll last less b/c it's finer.

Yes, only 9 hours
Title: Re: ProQ Cold Smoke Generator - Pure genius.
Post by: Barnum on August 28, 2010, 08:13:57 AM
nice cool morning this morning has me thinking we're getting closer to cold smokin' weather!





edited to correct typo
Title: Re: ProQ Cold Smoke Generator - Pure genius.
Post by: Corky on August 28, 2010, 12:33:18 PM
nice cool morning this morning has be thinking we're getting closer to cold smokin' weather!

Could be, sourwood and sweet gum leaves starting to color, acorns starting to fall... Maybe fall is closer than we think. Nice this morning to sit on deck, have breakfast and then go to the Alpharetta FMkt. Wonder if a BGE will visit and choose to stay at my house next month for my b'day?
Title: Re: ProQ Cold Smoke Generator - Pure genius.
Post by: Barnum on August 29, 2010, 08:16:29 AM
nice cool morning this morning has be thinking we're getting closer to cold smokin' weather!

Could be, sourwood and sweet gum leaves starting to color, acorns starting to fall... Maybe fall is closer than we think. Nice this morning to sit on deck, have breakfast and then go to the Alpharetta FMkt. Wonder if a BGE will visit and choose to stay at my house next month for my b'day?

I love my BGE, but am certainly curious if this little contraption can cover the limitation the BGE (or anything using charcoal that doesn't have an offset mechanism) has with providing cold smoke.
Title: Re: ProQ Cold Smoke Generator - Pure genius.
Post by: Mike GadgetGeek Stock on October 05, 2010, 03:07:38 PM
See, told ya, you're closer and got it first.  Maybe today.


Wow that sawdust is fine.

I feel certain that the cabinetmaker in Loganville can supply me with some untreated, pure wood,----- I'll report back when I have stopped in there and spoken with the owner.

The shop is closed and converted into a dance studio/gymnastics arena. Drat !!!!!!!!

Did anyone get the wood from Butcher Packer yet?  how is it..  I want to order more wood and I haven't ginned up the smoker yet.

I feel like I will use the WSM for my smoke chamber?  I do have a tall narrow box that I could poke holes in and put shelves into it but either my Little Chief or the WSM is what I'm going to use.. The weather is finally right for doing some smokin...

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Title: Re: ProQ Cold Smoke Generator - Pure genius.
Post by: Barnum on October 05, 2010, 03:09:43 PM
See, told ya, you're closer and got it first.  Maybe today.


Wow that sawdust is fine.

I feel certain that the cabinetmaker in Loganville can supply me with some untreated, pure wood,----- I'll report back when I have stopped in there and spoken with the owner.

The shop is closed and converted into a dance studio/gymnastics arena. Drat !!!!!!!!

Did anyone get the wood from Butcher Packer yet?  how is it..  I want to order more wood and I haven't ginned up the smoker yet.

I feel like I will use the WSM for my smoke chamber?  I do have a tall narrow box that I could poke holes in and put shelves into it but either my Little Chief or the WSM is what I'm going to use.. The weather is finally right for doing some smokin...

.

Very interested in sources... I plan to use my sample bag of sawdust this weekend if I can find some decent salmon.
Title: Re: ProQ Cold Smoke Generator - Pure genius.
Post by: Loundry on October 05, 2010, 04:35:16 PM
Very interested in sources... I plan to use my sample bag of sawdust this weekend if I can find some decent salmon.

And that's the hard part.  Where do you plan to find it?

As far a salmon (or any fish) is concerned, "decent" starts with "Does not taste like trawler net / chum bucket AT ALL".
Title: Re: ProQ Cold Smoke Generator - Pure genius.
Post by: Mike GadgetGeek Stock on October 05, 2010, 04:42:39 PM
Very interested in sources... I plan to use my sample bag of sawdust this weekend if I can find some decent salmon.

And that's the hard part.  Where do you plan to find it?

As far a salmon (or any fish) is concerned, "decent" starts with "Does not taste like trawler net / chum bucket AT ALL".

Cumon Loundry, Some folks, including me, really like fish, and do want to experiment with this cold smoking process.  You can sit this experiment out and do fill us in on some of your VERY interesting fermenting experiments.

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Title: Re: ProQ Cold Smoke Generator - Pure genius.
Post by: Jmolinari on October 05, 2010, 05:59:57 PM
GG, i just ordered the wood from butcher packer. I expect it this week i hope.
Barnum, last time i used the Steelhead trout from Costco. VEEERY tasty.
I'll use that to get good...then maybe one day get a hunk of king salmon.
Title: Re: ProQ Cold Smoke Generator - Pure genius.
Post by: HaagenDazs on October 06, 2010, 08:29:27 AM
...last time i used the Steelhead trout from Costco...

Precisely - While I'm not part of the experiment, I can say that there are all kinds of good smoking fish out there.  In fact if it were me, I would buy at least a couple different kinds so that I could make the most out of the smoke.
Title: Re: ProQ Cold Smoke Generator - Pure genius.
Post by: Loundry on October 06, 2010, 04:32:34 PM
Cumon Loundry, Some folks, including me, really like fish, and do want to experiment with this cold smoking process.  You can sit this experiment out and do fill us in on some of your VERY interesting fermenting experiments.

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Far be it from me to say that I dislike cold-smoked salmon, for I really do like it very much.  The best I had was at breakfast at the Ritz-Carlton in Fort Lauderdale.  In fact, the primary reason that I want to get involved in cold-smoking is to make smoked salmon!  However, I do not prefer fish that tastes like trawler net / chum bucket, and I'm very worried about putting in a lot of hours making cold-smoked salmon only to have it turn out tasting like that.  And I understand that you appreciate that flavor and that's okay.  More power to you.  That said, how do I know if a salmon is going to be high quality and lack that flavor?  Is it just a crapshoot?
Title: Re: ProQ Cold Smoke Generator - Pure genius.
Post by: Jmolinari on October 06, 2010, 07:06:56 PM
Cumon Loundry, Some folks, including me, really like fish, and do want to experiment with this cold smoking process.  You can sit this experiment out and do fill us in on some of your VERY interesting fermenting experiments.

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Far be it from me to say that I dislike cold-smoked salmon, for I really do like it very much.  The best I had was at breakfast at the Ritz-Carlton in Fort Lauderdale.  In fact, the primary reason that I want to get involved in cold-smoking is to make smoked salmon!  However, I do not prefer fish that tastes like trawler net / chum bucket, and I'm very worried about putting in a lot of hours making cold-smoked salmon only to have it turn out tasting like that.  And I understand that you appreciate that flavor and that's okay.  More power to you.  That said, how do I know if a salmon is going to be high quality and lack that flavor?  Is it just a crapshoot?

I've never had a Costco salmon have that taste...in fact, if a salmon has that taste i'm thinking it's past its prime!
Title: Re: ProQ Cold Smoke Generator - Pure genius.
Post by: HaagenDazs on October 06, 2010, 07:45:42 PM
That said, how do I know if a salmon is going to be high quality and lack that flavor?  Is it just a crapshoot?

You can buy frozen if possible.  Most seafood is shipped frozen and then thawed at the store.  Fresh, wild salmon might be an exception to that rule, but the season for wild is over.

I know it probably goes without saying, but the blanket rule would be to talk to the fish guy/gal behind the counter, tell them what you're doing with the fish and ask them what they'd recommend.
Title: Re: ProQ Cold Smoke Generator - Pure genius.
Post by: Barnum on October 09, 2010, 05:08:13 PM
Costco salmon consisted of dull pink farm raised, so I went with the steel head trout.

With the temperature being higher than I hoped, I'm doing the smoke overnight.

Have the smoke generator loaded with the sample wood dust:

(http://lh3.ggpht.com/_bDslkypbNJo/TLDmv8ATDzI/AAAAAAAACNM/2Jsww2qF1dI/s800/smoke_generator.JPG)

And my hi-tech cardboard box ready to go:

(http://lh6.ggpht.com/_bDslkypbNJo/TLDmvyEiAbI/AAAAAAAACNQ/o6gr0jmr_VA/s800/smoker_box.JPG)

Not sure if I should be doing anything to the fish before hand... not sure about the chemistry of the cold smoke and whether any kind of rub would help or hurt...  any thoughts?
Title: Re: ProQ Cold Smoke Generator - Pure genius.
Post by: Mike GadgetGeek Stock on October 09, 2010, 05:13:25 PM
Costco salmon consisted of dull pink farm raised, so I went with the steel head trout.

With the temperature being higher than I hoped, I'm doing the smoke overnight.


Not sure if I should be doing anything to the fish before hand... not sure about the chemistry of the cold smoke and whether any kind of rub would help or hurt...  any thoughts?

I'm pretty sure you should do a cure first..   Check back with Jason's post.. I think it takes a day to do the cure ?

http://285foodies.com/forum/index.php?topic=1599.msg10648#msg10648 (http://285foodies.com/forum/index.php?topic=1599.msg10648#msg10648)

Jason----- Help... ?

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Title: Re: ProQ Cold Smoke Generator - Pure genius.
Post by: Barnum on October 09, 2010, 05:21:05 PM
Costco salmon consisted of dull pink farm raised, so I went with the steel head trout.

With the temperature being higher than I hoped, I'm doing the smoke overnight.


Not sure if I should be doing anything to the fish before hand... not sure about the chemistry of the cold smoke and whether any kind of rub would help or hurt...  any thoughts?

I'm pretty sure you should do a cure first..   Check back with Jason's post.. I think it takes a day to do the cure ?

http://285foodies.com/forum/index.php?topic=1599.msg10648#msg10648 (http://285foodies.com/forum/index.php?topic=1599.msg10648#msg10648)

Jason----- Help... ?

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whoops... just found Jason's post and it certainly sounds like I need to regroup and do some work tomorrow... and maybe put it on tomorrow evening instead.
Title: Re: ProQ Cold Smoke Generator - Pure genius.
Post by: Jmolinari on October 09, 2010, 07:24:01 PM
Uhhh..barnum...the fish needs to be cured first...you can't just put a slab of raw salmon and cold smoke it

you need to cure it in salt first then allow for a pellicle.
i thought i posted my mehtod
Title: Re: ProQ Cold Smoke Generator - Pure genius.
Post by: Jmolinari on October 09, 2010, 07:25:34 PM
whoops...answered before reading everything.
Yeah...you need to salt cure it first..about 12-16 hours..then it has to form a pellicle in the fridge, about 2-3 hours. Then cold smoke. I laid the salmon on ice packs while it smoked for 5 hours to keep it cool in warm weather
Title: Re: ProQ Cold Smoke Generator - Pure genius.
Post by: Barnum on October 09, 2010, 07:38:50 PM
Uhhh..barnum...the fish needs to be cured first...you can't just put a slab of raw salmon and cold smoke it

you need to cure it in salt first then allow for a pellicle.
i thought i posted my mehtod


yes, you did.  Obviously I got carried away and didn't do any studying first.
Title: Re: ProQ Cold Smoke Generator - Pure genius.
Post by: Jmolinari on October 09, 2010, 07:48:27 PM
yah! please be careful, keep in mind that the fish is kept in the "danger" zone for multiple hours...this requires some reading and studying to avoid getting sick
Title: Re: ProQ Cold Smoke Generator - Pure genius.
Post by: Loundry on October 09, 2010, 11:04:16 PM
yah! please be careful, keep in mind that the fish is kept in the "danger" zone for multiple hours...this requires some reading and studying to avoid getting sick


Honestly that part of cold smoking a salmon scares me.  I'm inclined to wait for a day this winter when the temperature is not expected to get above 35 before I deign attempt it.
Title: Re: ProQ Cold Smoke Generator - Pure genius.
Post by: Mike GadgetGeek Stock on October 09, 2010, 11:07:53 PM
Uhhh..barnum...the fish needs to be cured first...you can't just put a slab of raw salmon and cold smoke it

you need to cure it in salt first then allow for a pellicle.
i thought i posted my mehtod


yes, you did.  Obviously I got carried away and didn't do any studying first.

Barnum, your setup looks great, it will wait the few days it takes to get prepped.  I too am going to wait for a bit cooler weather to use my new smoker the first time..   

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Title: Re: ProQ Cold Smoke Generator - Pure genius.
Post by: Jmolinari on October 10, 2010, 05:59:54 AM
yah! please be careful, keep in mind that the fish is kept in the "danger" zone for multiple hours...this requires some reading and studying to avoid getting sick


Honestly that part of cold smoking a salmon scares me.  I'm inclined to wait for a day this winter when the temperature is not expected to get above 35 before I deign attempt it.

i've read that the lower the temperature, the slower the smoke absorbtion...so if you do it at 35 or so, it might take 15 hours smoking instead of 5...i don't know
Title: Re: ProQ Cold Smoke Generator - Pure genius.
Post by: Lorenzo on October 10, 2010, 09:30:42 AM
yah! please be careful, keep in mind that the fish is kept in the "danger" zone for multiple hours...this requires some reading and studying to avoid getting sick

Would a little Cure No. 1 be useful?  Or would it change the texture of the fish to something other than what we think of as characteristic of lox/nova/gravlax/etc?
Title: Re: ProQ Cold Smoke Generator - Pure genius.
Post by: Jmolinari on October 10, 2010, 08:40:44 PM
lorenzo: hrmm..i wonder if cure #1 would make the fish have that "hammy" flavor...i'm not sure. I'm not even sure that botulism is what i would be worried about, given that it's not in a sealed oxygen free environment...but i don't think it could hurt you....
migth be worth trying.
Title: Re: ProQ Cold Smoke Generator - Pure genius.
Post by: Lorenzo on October 11, 2010, 07:44:20 AM
I'm not even sure that botulism is what i would be worried about, given that it's not in a sealed oxygen free environment...

Isn't the smoker sealed?  I am only familiar with the sausagemaking rule of thumb that if meat is being smoked at temps in the danger zone--which is typically the case--a nitrite cure is recommended.  Smoke displaces essentially all oxygen in a typical smoker.

A quick Googling "cold smoking fish" reveals plenty of info (that I haven't read): E.g.,

http://www.fda.gov/Food/ScienceResearch/ResearchAreas/SafePracticesforFoodProcesses/ucm092182.htm

http://www.ext.colostate.edu/safefood/newsltr/v12n2s02.html

Looks like fed and state regulations don't require nitrite for curing fish to be cold smoked commercially, but it is mentioned.
Title: Re: ProQ Cold Smoke Generator - Pure genius.
Post by: Jmolinari on October 12, 2010, 06:01:15 AM
I'm not even sure that botulism is what i would be worried about, given that it's not in a sealed oxygen free environment...

Isn't the smoker sealed?  I am only familiar with the sausagemaking rule of thumb that if meat is being smoked at temps in the danger zone--which is typically the case--a nitrite cure is recommended.  Smoke displaces essentially all oxygen in a typical smoker.

A quick Googling "cold smoking fish" reveals plenty of info (that I haven't read): E.g.,

http://www.fda.gov/Food/ScienceResearch/ResearchAreas/SafePracticesforFoodProcesses/ucm092182.htm

http://www.ext.colostate.edu/safefood/newsltr/v12n2s02.html

Looks like fed and state regulations don't require nitrite for curing fish to be cold smoked commercially, but it is mentioned.


Hrmm...the smoker is enclosed, but not sealed...there are air vents open...and i'm not sure that it would displace all the oxygen. Honestly i'd have to research it more.
Title: Re: ProQ Cold Smoke Generator - Pure genius.
Post by: Lorenzo on October 12, 2010, 07:25:09 AM
Well, anyway, from the few links I looked through, it seems that salt is acceptable as a cure for fish to be cold-smoked, and nitrite (pink salt / Cure No. 1) isn't that commonly used.  Totally different from meat/sausage.
Title: Re: ProQ Cold Smoke Generator - Pure genius.
Post by: Jmolinari on October 12, 2010, 08:25:48 AM
just an update. I got my wood from butcher-packer.com and it seems too coarse.
I'll try it anyhow, and let you know. If it doesn't work i've read of people grinding it up in a blender...i'll try that.
Title: Re: ProQ Cold Smoke Generator - Pure genius.
Post by: Jmolinari on October 12, 2010, 01:11:00 PM
I might have found (well, was told of) a place that has saw dust that works with the Pro-Q. This guy tells me he uses it as-is out of the bag, and it looks similar to what the Pro-Q sample looks like.
It's cheap too... about $5 for a 5 lb bag of mixed hardwood dust, or about $11 for "single origin" like cherry or apple wood.

Problem is, it's one of those companies that overcharges for shipping. A 5 lb bag costs $12 to ship. BUT, multiple bags increase shipping only marginally (2 bags ship for $13.50, 3 bags for $15). So, i thought maybe some 285F folks would want to split shipping with me and GG.
I have no idea how we would distribute the bags. I live in smyrna, work in Kennesaw GG lives in Larryville. It would cost as much in gas as we would save if i had to drive to Larryville, not to mention the inconvenience.

I'd be willing to order if people want to meet me locally (local to me:) ) to pick theirs up.

whachu think? This is the place:  https://www.psseasoning.com/index.cfm/act/products.view/category_id/20
Title: Re: ProQ Cold Smoke Generator - Pure genius.
Post by: Mike GadgetGeek Stock on October 12, 2010, 01:36:28 PM
I might have found (well, was told of) a place that has saw dust that works with the Pro-Q. This guy tells me he uses it as-is out of the bag, and it looks similar to what the Pro-Q sample looks like.
It's cheap too... about $5 for a 5 lb bag of mixed hardwood dust, or about $11 for "single origin" like cherry or apple wood.

Problem is, it's one of those companies that overcharges for shipping. A 5 lb bag costs $12 to ship. BUT, multiple bags increase shipping only marginally (2 bags ship for $13.50, 3 bags for $15). So, i thought maybe some 285F folks would want to split shipping with me and GG.
I have no idea how we would distribute the bags. I live in smyrna, work in Kennesaw GG lives in Larryville. It would cost as much in gas as we would save if i had to drive to Larryville, not to mention the inconvenience.

I'd be willing to order if people want to meet me locally (local to me:) ) to pick theirs up.

whachu think? This is the place:  https://www.psseasoning.com/index.cfm/act/products.view/category_id/20


I have met folks half way when they had bags of things that I wanted   8) 

I'm always willing to meet at 5 Seasons or somewhere else over that way.

It is not like the wood is perishable, I'm sure that arrangements can be made ?

Heck, if we get 5 folks in on the order I'll order 2 bags.

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Title: Re: ProQ Cold Smoke Generator - Pure genius.
Post by: Jmolinari on October 12, 2010, 01:38:56 PM
If you order 2 bags, you might as well order it yourself, since at that point the shipping drops from $12/bag to $6.50 per bag, which is reasonable....plus it would come right to your house.
That's what i was thinking of doing...1 bag cherry or apple, 1 bag mixed hardwood
Title: Re: ProQ Cold Smoke Generator - Pure genius.
Post by: Barnum on October 12, 2010, 01:54:51 PM
If you order 2 bags, you might as well order it yourself, since at that point the shipping drops from $12/bag to $6.50 per bag, which is reasonable....plus it would come right to your house.
That's what i was thinking of doing...1 bag cherry or apple, 1 bag mixed hardwood

I'm good with ordering my own, but I was thinking it's be a good opportunity to meet on a Saturday afternoon for another lunch...
Title: Re: ProQ Cold Smoke Generator - Pure genius.
Post by: Jmolinari on October 13, 2010, 07:41:21 AM
hah...rumor has it if one takes Traeger pellets, and leaves them out in the rain, they crumble to a dust usable by the pro-Q.... wonder if it's worth trying!
Title: Re: ProQ Cold Smoke Generator - Pure genius.
Post by: Jmolinari on October 22, 2010, 07:38:29 PM
Just a heads up guys. My wife surprised me with a box of smoker dust (i guess she wants me to make more lox:) from PSSeasonings.com.
The "mixed hardwood sawdust" is very fine and seems to work well, if burning a little fast. Instead of the 8 hours rated, i would estimate the whole thing will run about 5-6 with a full load.
The cherry sawdust is much much coarser. Less coarse than the butcher-packer.com sawdust, but still too coarse to but in the Pro-Q.
So if you order from PSseasonings make sure you get the mixed hardwood. I emailed them asking why they would call them both sawdust.

I guess one disappointing thing about the Pro-Q is how specific the dust has to be. I have 5lbs of it, which is enough for about 20 full burns, which should last me a nice long while.

If i can get my hands on some traeger pellets, i'll give thos a try
Title: Re: ProQ Cold Smoke Generator - Pure genius.
Post by: Mike GadgetGeek Stock on October 25, 2010, 03:47:52 PM
nice cool morning this morning has be thinking we're getting closer to cold smokin' weather!

Could be, sourwood and sweet gum leaves starting to color, acorns starting to fall... Maybe fall is closer than we think. Nice this morning to sit on deck, have breakfast and then go to the Alpharetta FMkt. Wonder if a BGE will visit and choose to stay at my house next month for my b'day? 

Well, did one come and stay ?  Happy Birthday...

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Title: Re: ProQ Cold Smoke Generator - Pure genius.
Post by: Jmolinari on November 21, 2010, 01:33:16 PM
There is another product, essentially the same as the ProQ, which can be found here:
http://www.amazenproducts.com/Products.html

they also sell sawdust, and i'm pretty sure it'll work for us ProQ users.
Title: Re: ProQ Cold Smoke Generator - Pure genius.
Post by: Mike GadgetGeek Stock on November 21, 2010, 04:51:21 PM
There is another product, essentially the same as the ProQ, which can be found here:
http://www.amazenproducts.com/Products.html

they also sell sawdust, and i'm pretty sure it'll work for us ProQ users.


Cool, I just got a couple pounds of Traeger pellets to fiddle with, maybe now I won't fool with 'em ?

I had 5 guys sitting around a table today at our LARGE family Thanksgiving gathering eating up the ProQ idea, one guy took pictures and measurements and says he has a bunch of that SS screen sitting around the shop.  I think he intends to build one?

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Title: Re: ProQ Cold Smoke Generator - Pure genius.
Post by: Mike GadgetGeek Stock on November 30, 2010, 06:12:14 PM
There is another product, essentially the same as the ProQ, which can be found here:
http://www.amazenproducts.com/Products.html

they also sell sawdust, and i'm pretty sure it'll work for us ProQ users.


Cool, I just got a couple pounds of Traeger pellets to fiddle with, maybe now I won't fool with 'em ?

I had 5 guys sitting around a table today at our LARGE family Thanksgiving gathering eating up the ProQ idea, one guy took pictures and measurements and says he has a bunch of that SS screen sitting around the shop.  I think he intends to build one?

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I'm putting the tray of pellets outside, I'm feeling that this is the right atmosphere to let them humidify..  ;)

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Title: Re: ProQ Cold Smoke Generator - Pure genius.
Post by: Jmolinari on November 30, 2010, 07:24:23 PM
haha, awesome. Let me know how it works!
Title: Re: ProQ Cold Smoke Generator - Pure genius.
Post by: AndyBoy on December 01, 2010, 08:26:10 AM
With the help of GG I ordered a smoker last night. Plan on smoking some fish when I get it. Guess I need to order some more sawdust also.
Title: Re: ProQ Cold Smoke Generator - Pure genius.
Post by: LizR on December 01, 2010, 11:48:21 AM
I ordered one for DH for Christmas.
Title: Re: ProQ Cold Smoke Generator - Pure genius.
Post by: totm on December 01, 2010, 11:56:31 AM
I ordered one for DH for Christmas.
Might as well give it to him when it arrives.  ;-) 
Title: Re: ProQ Cold Smoke Generator - Pure genius.
Post by: Jmolinari on December 01, 2010, 12:08:01 PM
I made another batch of lox a couple of weeks ago.
I added a lot of coriander to the brine, and couldn't taste it in the finished product. Also "glazed" one with rum while it was forming the pellicle, and couldn't taste that either.
I think herbs and spices have to be added with a dry cure instead of a brine.
Title: Re: ProQ Cold Smoke Generator - Pure genius.
Post by: LizR on December 01, 2010, 03:13:27 PM
I ordered one for DH for Christmas.
Might as well give it to him when it arrives.  ;-) 

Actually, it is winging its way to Western NY so he will just have to wait.

Jason - that  makes some sense to me about the brine. I don't think that brines can impart much flavor, other than salt. Seems like a dry rub would work better; at a minimum you would get the flavor of whatever remains on the outside when it is done. Kind of like gravlax.
Title: Re: ProQ Cold Smoke Generator - Pure genius.
Post by: Jmolinari on December 01, 2010, 03:19:12 PM
Yup...i've had this discussion with people on egullet and on here too...regarding brines and flavors..
they do impart SOME, but i don't understand the chemistry. I'm sure it has to do with water and oil soluble flavor compounds, molecule size, etc.etc.
Title: Re: ProQ Cold Smoke Generator - Pure genius.
Post by: Mike GadgetGeek Stock on December 01, 2010, 03:38:30 PM
Yup...i've had this discussion with people on egullet and on here too...regarding brines and flavors..
they do impart SOME, but i don't understand the chemistry. I'm sure it has to do with water and oil soluble flavor compounds, molecule size, etc.etc. 

I too am forever mystified at what different recipes use in a brine or a marinade?  I honestly think that perhaps most of the additions never get a flavor into the fish/meat, etc. ?

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Title: Re: ProQ Cold Smoke Generator - Pure genius.
Post by: Mike GadgetGeek Stock on December 18, 2010, 03:37:58 PM

I smoked my nuts...

4 cups of pecans for some Holiday snacks

I also smoked about 3 lb of tuna..     The smoke generator went out about 5 - 6 hours into the process, no idea why ?

The tuna is fine, well flavored and just smokey enough..  The nuts would have used a bit more smoke.. I'll use them as they are, but would have rather them getting 8 hours of smoke on them...

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Title: Re: ProQ Cold Smoke Generator - Pure genius.
Post by: uOTPia Dweller on December 18, 2010, 05:06:52 PM


I smoked my nuts...


Wish I could get mine smoked once in awhile.
Title: Re: ProQ Cold Smoke Generator - Pure genius.
Post by: Mike GadgetGeek Stock on December 18, 2010, 11:08:28 PM

Here is my tuna and nuts smoking on different levels.

(http://aroundhere.net/Mike2/285Fpics/tunaYnuts22.jpg)



Here is where the trail ended.  I have no idea why ? it went about 5 1/2 - 6 hours before it went out.

(http://aroundhere.net/Mike2/285Fpics/smokegenerator12182010.jpg)

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Title: Re: ProQ Cold Smoke Generator - Pure genius.
Post by: Jmolinari on December 19, 2010, 08:29:00 AM
sweet rig! ingenious
Title: Re: ProQ Cold Smoke Generator - Pure genius.
Post by: Mike GadgetGeek Stock on December 19, 2010, 11:34:53 AM
sweet rig! ingenious


That clamp on upper grate is available at BGE headquarters for about $20.00..  it is not hard chromed though and as you can see in the picture, it will rust if left outside here in Georgia.... The clamps fit on just about any grill surface..  called a "grill extender"...

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Title: Re: ProQ Cold Smoke Generator - Pure genius.
Post by: Jmolinari on December 19, 2010, 11:40:43 AM
i bet it went out b/c the fish dripped onto the wood trail...you can put a little foil tent over it to avoid that
Title: Re: ProQ Cold Smoke Generator - Pure genius.
Post by: Mike GadgetGeek Stock on December 19, 2010, 11:43:34 AM
i bet it went out b/c the fish dripped onto the wood trail...you can put a little foil tent over it to avoid that


Good idea..   I'll do that ...

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Title: Re: ProQ Cold Smoke Generator - Pure genius.
Post by: Jmolinari on December 19, 2010, 11:48:10 AM
I tried using some Traeger pellets that GG gave me in the proQ. They work well, after some "processing"

1)) soak traeger pellets in water for a couple of hours or until bloated and soft
2) crush with fingers. pellets will be soft and mostly fall apart
3) drain
4) spread on oven tray and dry in oven set to lowest (mine is 170). until totally completely dry. At least 2-3-4 hours
5) use
Title: Re: ProQ Cold Smoke Generator - Pure genius.
Post by: Mike GadgetGeek Stock on December 19, 2010, 12:03:01 PM
I tried using some Traeger pellets that GG gave me in the proQ. They work well, after some "processing"

1)) soak traeger pellets in water for a couple of hours or until bloated and soft
2) crush with fingers. pellets will be soft and mostly fall apart
3) drain
4) spread on oven tray and dry in oven set to lowest (mine is 170). until totally completely dry. At least 2-3-4 hours
5) use

Now with that we can use Traeger pellets and they have a bunch of different flavors..   I'll ask my uncle Wesley where he get's his pellets (for his Traeger smoker), and either bum some more pellets from him or buy a 20# sack.  I guess that 20# will go a long way?

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Title: Re: ProQ Cold Smoke Generator - Pure genius.
Post by: Jmolinari on December 19, 2010, 12:08:09 PM
yah 20 lbs will go a loooooooong way
Title: Re: ProQ Cold Smoke Generator - Pure genius.
Post by: Mike GadgetGeek Stock on January 05, 2011, 06:03:05 AM


I have my 20#'s of mixed hardwood, 

Cage up your salmon. bring your tuna indoors, keep your cheese caved, cellar your salt, and hide your nuts   ;)

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Title: Re: ProQ Cold Smoke Generator - Pure genius.
Post by: Jmolinari on January 05, 2011, 06:25:32 AM
you bought a bag of traeger pellets?
i did a smoke of some salame...used the whole coil...went for about 10.5 hrs...very nice..i love this thing
Title: Re: ProQ Cold Smoke Generator - Pure genius.
Post by: AndyBoy on January 06, 2011, 08:47:37 AM
I bought a 20 lb. bag of alder pellets. Haven't had a chance to use them yet, maybe I get some ready to smoke today.
Title: Re: ProQ Cold Smoke Generator - Pure genius.
Post by: Jmolinari on January 06, 2011, 09:10:18 AM
cool. did you buy them locally?
Next time we meet, can i buy some off you? I'd like to build up a variety, but 20lbs is way too much
Title: Re: ProQ Cold Smoke Generator - Pure genius.
Post by: AndyBoy on January 06, 2011, 04:38:44 PM
I will give you as much as you need Jason, 20 lbs. is way too much but that was their minimum order with $2.00 postage and it arrived in about 2 days from Traeger in Oregon. Really good service.
Title: Re: ProQ Cold Smoke Generator - Pure genius.
Post by: Jmolinari on January 06, 2011, 05:04:40 PM
they mailed you 20lbs of pellets for $2 from oregon?! wow
Title: Re: ProQ Cold Smoke Generator - Pure genius.
Post by: LizR on January 11, 2011, 07:15:41 PM
First day playing with ours. We are having trouble getting it to stay lit and now even to light. DH thought it might be the cold, so he brought it in and put it on our stove (!!!) and is still trying. He refuses to put the food on a plate to prevent drips, but insists that the foil sheet he has put directly above the smoker mechanism is protecting it from drips. Thoughts?
Title: Re: ProQ Cold Smoke Generator - Pure genius.
Post by: Jmolinari on January 11, 2011, 07:23:22 PM
the foil will work
GG reports that he had better luck after dring the sawdust out for an hour in the oven at about 180.
I guess it depends where you store it.

what wood?
Title: Re: ProQ Cold Smoke Generator - Pure genius.
Post by: LizR on January 11, 2011, 09:23:16 PM
The stuff it came with, but he finally got it going and we have some deliciously smoked salmon (had to sample just a taste before the mellowing!), and cloves of garlic. The salmon is pretty incredible, but the best thing so far were the strip steaks that got about 1-2 hours of smoking total. Nothing fancy, just a big chunk of meat that DH found at Caroline St Kroger for $3.99 a pound and divided up into steaks.They were dry brined with 1/2 tsp salt per pound for 24 hours first. Man, those things were delicious. Kind of like they were cooked on charcoal, but better. Highly recommended.
Title: Re: ProQ Cold Smoke Generator - Pure genius.
Post by: Jmolinari on January 11, 2011, 09:58:37 PM
never thought of pre-smoking beef for an hour or 2. Great idea...i have some nice NY strips from costco i'll have to try.
especially cause i sous vide them...so the extra flavor will be welcome.
Title: Re: ProQ Cold Smoke Generator - Pure genius.
Post by: LizR on January 11, 2011, 11:22:47 PM
YMMV - I'd love to hear what your results are. Not sure how he thought of that idea, but it worked for us.

And so, the short answer re the best place to get more sawdust is....?? I read the threads but maybe all of you guys with experience can make a suggestion? Thanks.
Title: Re: ProQ Cold Smoke Generator - Pure genius.
Post by: Mike GadgetGeek Stock on January 11, 2011, 11:36:56 PM
YMMV - I'd love to hear what your results are. Not sure how he thought of that idea, but it worked for us.

And so, the short answer re the best place to get more sawdust is....?? I read the threads but maybe all of you guys with experience can make a suggestion? Thanks.

GG>-  ONLY USE THE MIXED HARDWOOD SAWDUST, it is the correct grain/chip size for the ProQ smoker.  I am ALWAYS pre-drying each load of sawdust I put in the smoke generator, it works like a charm, the last full load went for 9+ hours..

http://www.psseasoning.com/index.cfm/act/product.view/category_id/20/av/r/product_id/1572 (http://www.psseasoning.com/index.cfm/act/product.view/category_id/20/av/r/product_id/1572)

btw. I am talking to the folks at PS seasoning to see if they can supply the other wood flavors in the proper chip size for all of us to use.
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Title: Re: ProQ Cold Smoke Generator - Pure genius.
Post by: KoPP on January 12, 2011, 01:26:20 AM
One of the best cuts of meat I've had in a while was smoked prime rib...
Title: Re: ProQ Cold Smoke Generator - Pure genius.
Post by: Jmolinari on January 12, 2011, 08:09:36 AM
One of the best cuts of meat I've had in a while was smoked prime rib...

likely hot smoked though, like in a BGE, right>?
Title: Re: ProQ Cold Smoke Generator - Pure genius.
Post by: KoPP on January 12, 2011, 08:13:26 AM
In this case, probably. Don't think they had a cold smoker in Nebraska.
Title: Re: ProQ Cold Smoke Generator - Pure genius.
Post by: Jmolinari on January 24, 2011, 08:23:51 PM
The stuff it came with, but he finally got it going and we have some deliciously smoked salmon (had to sample just a taste before the mellowing!), and cloves of garlic. The salmon is pretty incredible, but the best thing so far were the strip steaks that got about 1-2 hours of smoking total. Nothing fancy, just a big chunk of meat that DH found at Caroline St Kroger for $3.99 a pound and divided up into steaks.They were dry brined with 1/2 tsp salt per pound for 24 hours first. Man, those things were delicious. Kind of like they were cooked on charcoal, but better. Highly recommended.

I have to thank you for this idea! Yesterday i smoked a ribeye from costco (on sale for 4.99!!) for 2 hours or so, salted, and put in fridge overnight. Tonight seared in a pan, and finished in hot oven.
WOOOOOOOWWW!
It had a very strong smoke flavor, as though it had been cooked on a wood grill. Kind of reminded me of bacon! Really delicious. I wouldn't do it every time, as it was quite strong (and wife said she preferred no smoke), but definitely every once in a while. Might also add some stuff to the sawdust (crushed juniper or rosemary...)
Title: Re: ProQ Cold Smoke Generator - Pure genius.
Post by: LizR on January 24, 2011, 10:39:36 PM
Try one hour of smoking and see if your wife likes it. I didn't care for the longer smoke, but the shorter one just made it taste like it was cooked on charcoal, and you can do a bunch at a time and save them for later.
Title: Re: ProQ Cold Smoke Generator - Pure genius.
Post by: Jmolinari on January 25, 2011, 06:18:07 AM
yup..will lower it to 1 hr. next time...i'm surprised it picked up as much as it did in 2hrs... i thought it was delicious, and so did the daughter.
Title: Re: ProQ Cold Smoke Generator - Pure genius.
Post by: AndyBoy on February 15, 2011, 04:28:34 PM
Well I finally got my ProQ smoker to do a full burn. I brined steelhead trout filet yesterday and smoked it for 5 hours today with the alder pellets soaked in water and dried in the oven. Just gave it a taste and all I can say is DAMN! If anyone needs some alder pellets I will be glad to share some, 20 pounds is a lot.
Title: Re: ProQ Cold Smoke Generator - Pure genius.
Post by: OregonRider on May 06, 2011, 01:46:50 PM
Hey y'all,

I just found 285 by doing a google search for "ProQ won't stay lit". The provided packet would not burn so I bought 5# from Butcher & Packer. Tried it yesterday with similar results. Thanks to y'all I am gonna put a batch in the oven & see if that works. Seems like a PITA if I have to do every time but if that's what I takes I'll do it. I have a WSM & it's not exactly a five minute task to get it going.
Title: Re: ProQ Cold Smoke Generator - Pure genius.
Post by: Mike GadgetGeek Stock on May 06, 2011, 02:57:58 PM
Hey y'all,

I just found 285 by doing a google search for "ProQ won't stay lit". The provided packet would not burn so I bought 5# from Butcher & Packer. Tried it yesterday with similar results. Thanks to y'all I am gonna put a batch in the oven & see if that works. Seems like a PITA if I have to do every time but if that's what I takes I'll do it. I have a WSM & it's not exactly a five minute task to get it going.

Several folks have talked about having problems with the ProQ staying lit, but I have not, except one time when the fish dripped on the sawdust.  The other place (not Butcher & Packer) is the best place in my opinion to buy the "dust".. Here the old message and a link to the best sawdust.

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GG>-  ONLY USE THE MIXED HARDWOOD SAWDUST, it is the correct grain/chip size for the ProQ smoker.  I am ALWAYS pre-drying each load of sawdust I put in the smoke generator, it works like a charm, the last full load went for 9+ hours..

http://www.psseasoning.com/index.cfm/act/product.view/category_id/20/av/r/product_id/1572 (http://www.psseasoning.com/index.cfm/act/product.view/category_id/20/av/r/product_id/1572)

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Title: Re: ProQ Cold Smoke Generator - Pure genius.
Post by: Jmolinari on May 07, 2011, 03:18:34 PM
butcher packer stuff is too coarse..i tried it as well.... the dust really does have to be pretty much dust...very fine.
Title: Re: ProQ Cold Smoke Generator - Pure genius.
Post by: Mike GadgetGeek Stock on September 12, 2011, 01:04:48 PM


I am preparing to crank my cold smoker up this week.

I have the brine (Jasons) printed out and have some of last years tuna thawing. 

The evenings and mornings are cold enough to give the tuna a 4 hour smoke.

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Title: Re: ProQ Cold Smoke Generator - Pure genius.
Post by: Jmolinari on September 12, 2011, 01:09:11 PM
yup..it's almost cold smoking season! Yay.
Try cold smoking a rib eye for about an hour then grilling. I think Liz thought of it...it's amazing!
Title: Re: ProQ Cold Smoke Generator - Pure genius.
Post by: LizR on September 12, 2011, 08:31:43 PM
yup..it's almost cold smoking season! Yay.
Try cold smoking a rib eye for about an hour then grilling. I think Liz thought of it...it's amazing!

Glad you liked it Jason but I have to give credit to my husband, Catfishthyphoon. In fact, he just got out the cold smoker this past weekend and smoked some salmon from BHFM to make gravlax. I think he also stuck a pork butt out there for a while.
Title: Re: ProQ Cold Smoke Generator - Pure genius.
Post by: Mike GadgetGeek Stock on September 16, 2011, 05:24:13 PM


Jason did you tell me one time approximately how much sawdust goes into the Pro Q ?  I can't find that post.

1 1/2 cups or did you give it to me in Micro-grams ... ?     ;)

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Title: Re: ProQ Cold Smoke Generator - Pure genius.
Post by: vssparky on September 17, 2011, 01:24:27 PM
Mike-
approximately 100g but that would be based upon the water content of the wood. By volume best estimate (by Jason) was  1.5-1.75 cups. Hopes this helps.
Marc
Title: Re: ProQ Cold Smoke Generator - Pure genius.
Post by: Jmolinari on September 17, 2011, 02:02:52 PM


Jason did you tell me one time approximately how much sawdust goes into the Pro Q ?  I can't find that post.

1 1/2 cups or did you give it to me in Micro-grams ... ?     ;)

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I don't remember...VSSparky is probably close...
Title: Re: ProQ Cold Smoke Generator - Pure genius.
Post by: LizR on September 26, 2011, 09:13:01 AM
BTW - that gravlax (sans the sugar) was fantastic! And it kept forever. I think that is going to become a regular staple around here.
Title: Re: ProQ Cold Smoke Generator - Pure genius.
Post by: Jmolinari on November 07, 2011, 03:17:59 PM
Just a heads up. A friend bought PSS mixed hardwood sawdust and it no longer works on the pro-q. It's too coarse now.
Title: Re: ProQ Cold Smoke Generator - Pure genius.
Post by: Mike GadgetGeek Stock on November 07, 2011, 05:16:23 PM
Just a heads up. A friend bought PSS mixed hardwood sawdust and it no longer works on the pro-q. It's too coarse now.

Drat, I'm glad I bought 20lbs now...

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Title: Re: ProQ Cold Smoke Generator - Pure genius.
Post by: vssparky on November 11, 2011, 03:07:25 PM
So what happened to the use of hardwood pellets? Believe the theory was to wet them to break them up and.... ?
Title: Re: ProQ Cold Smoke Generator - Pure genius.
Post by: Jmolinari on November 11, 2011, 03:29:48 PM
yup...worked when i tried it.
Wet pellets, let them soak...they inflate and become crumbly and soft. Drain. Put in over for a couple hours to dry.
Use.
Title: Re: ProQ Cold Smoke Generator - Pure genius.
Post by: Mike GadgetGeek Stock on February 18, 2013, 05:29:01 AM


I have about 4-5 lbs of Bluefin tuna in the brine at 6:15am prepping for a cold smoke later today. 

I dried my sawdust in the toaster over at 175º for 1 1/2 hours yesterday preparatory to this smoking.
I am using my regular Weber 22" grill as my smoke chamber.
I will put about 4-5 hours of smoke on these fairly thick, fairly large chunks of wonderful smelling fish.

More later...................

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Title: Re: ProQ Cold Smoke Generator - Pure genius.
Post by: Mike GadgetGeek Stock on February 18, 2013, 11:55:55 PM


I have about 4-5 lbs of Bluefin tuna in the brine at 6:15am prepping for a cold smoke later today. 

I dried my sawdust in the toaster over at 175º for 1 1/2 hours yesterday preparatory to this smoking.
I am using my regular Weber 22" grill as my smoke chamber.
I will put about 4-5 hours of smoke on these fairly thick, fairly large chunks of wonderful smelling fish.

More later...................

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So now the tuna is off from the smoke.. It is almost 1am and I have an hour to wait to wrap the filets in plastic wrap and give them a day to equalize. 

It has been a long patient day.

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Title: Re: ProQ Cold Smoke Generator - Pure genius.
Post by: Mike GadgetGeek Stock on February 19, 2013, 04:14:06 AM


I have about 4-5 lbs of Bluefin tuna in the brine at 6:15am prepping for a cold smoke later today. 

I dried my sawdust in the toaster over at 175º for 1 1/2 hours yesterday preparatory to this smoking.
I am using my regular Weber 22" grill as my smoke chamber.
I will put about 4-5 hours of smoke on these fairly thick, fairly large chunks of wonderful smelling fish.

More later...................

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So now the tuna is off from the smoke.. It is almost 1am and I have an hour to wait to wrap the filets in plastic wrap and give them a day to equalize. 

It has been a long patient day.

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5:03am
Okay, okay.........    I feel back asleep on the couch, but the tuna/yellowtail is fine, it is cold outside, and NOW it is wrapped with cling-wrap and tucked away (after a tasting) for a day or so to regulate it's taste.  If the initial bite was an indication, it will be WAY good..

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Title: Re: ProQ Cold Smoke Generator - Pure genius.
Post by: Jmolinari on February 20, 2013, 08:46:16 AM
should be awesome. Did you do anything to the chunks before smoking?
Title: Re: ProQ Cold Smoke Generator - Pure genius.
Post by: Mike GadgetGeek Stock on February 20, 2013, 11:36:12 AM
should be awesome. Did you do anything to the chunks before smoking?

The standard (your) cure for 8 1/2 hours, rinsed them for 30 minutes, dried them for 4 hours,  smoked them a little bit long but it is really flavorful.  They could have done with 3 hours in the smoke rather than 5. 
I had 4 slices with some eggs for breakfast this morning, it is really tasty.   cold smoked Bluefin rocks.


Here is a sneak peek at the smallest of the fillets after smoking.

(http://aroundhere.net/Mike2/285Fpics/2013pics/OnepieceB.jpg)


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Title: Re: ProQ Cold Smoke Generator - Pure genius.
Post by: Mike GadgetGeek Stock on February 20, 2013, 01:24:33 PM


Here is a "set" I made on Flickr of the process.  It get easier each time I do it. 

Click on this Cold Smoking some tuna  (http://flic.kr/s/aHsjE4HXo7/) pictures

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Title: Re: ProQ Cold Smoke Generator - Pure genius.
Post by: Mike GadgetGeek Stock on April 28, 2013, 07:02:02 PM

I have never done Bluefin nor Yellowtail bellies on the cold smoker, the tuna and yellowtail are in the brine, I am waiting until later tonight to brine 3 nice salmon slabs that will be on the smoker at the same time.  I am using my WSM (Weber Smoky Mountain) grill 'cause it has several levels of real estate that I will fill up with this much fish.  One of the Yellowtail bellies is HUGE, I hope I was the one that caught it last year in August. 


(http://aroundhere.net/Mike2/285Fpics/2013pics/3salmon01.jpg)

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Title: Re: ProQ Cold Smoke Generator - Pure genius.
Post by: Mike GadgetGeek Stock on April 29, 2013, 06:27:30 AM


 I have decided to hot smoke the tuna on the Big Green Egg, but cold smoke the salmon...  All things change..


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Title: Re: ProQ Cold Smoke Generator - Pure genius.
Post by: Mike GadgetGeek Stock on May 01, 2013, 07:57:46 PM


My recent fish smoking.

Click on this for more Smoking some fish  (http://www.flickr.com/photos/49637895@N00/sets/72157633398207066/) pictures

(http://aroundhere.net/Mike2/285Fpics/2013pics/Salmonsmokin.jpg)

(http://aroundhere.net/Mike2/285Fpics/2013pics/HotSmokers.jpg)


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Title: Re: ProQ Cold Smoke Generator - Pure genius.
Post by: Jmolinari on May 02, 2013, 01:36:49 PM
beauty
Title: Re: ProQ Cold Smoke Generator - Pure genius.
Post by: Mike GadgetGeek Stock on December 11, 2013, 08:20:38 PM

Setting up to do 3 nice racks of salmon very soon. 

Should I throw in any twists or do it like I've been doing it.. ?

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Title: Re: ProQ Cold Smoke Generator - Pure genius.
Post by: Mike GadgetGeek Stock on February 05, 2014, 05:12:47 PM

3 sides of those Loomi Island Salmon going in the WSM with the mixed wood smoke doing it's thing for 3 to 5 hours.

Going on the cold smoke either later tonight or tomorrow morning, they are resting, developing their pellicle, having been brine/cured for 8 1/2 hours in the JaMo brine mix X2...    I added no seasoning or herbs nor spices. 

I love this trade off.. I get free salmon for curing and smoking some, what a country.    8)


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Title: Re: ProQ Cold Smoke Generator - Pure genius.
Post by: Mike GadgetGeek Stock on February 06, 2014, 06:22:34 PM

3 sides of those Loomi Island Salmon going in the WSM with the mixed wood smoke doing it's thing for 3 to 5 hours.

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I don't know why the salmon cracked open, do you have any experience with that ?

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Title: Re: ProQ Cold Smoke Generator - Pure genius.
Post by: Mike GadgetGeek Stock on February 07, 2014, 01:47:05 PM


9 hours (nothing in the smoker) just checking on the burn.. 

Title: Re: ProQ Cold Smoke Generator - Pure genius.
Post by: Mike GadgetGeek Stock on February 11, 2014, 01:00:01 PM

Fixin to cold smoke some Water Buffalo filets later today Thursday the 13th   , same wood, no brine, just drying them well in the fridge for a almost 2 days (because of the ice storm).   I think I'll smoke them about 4 hours, I am only filling up the smoke generator with 4 runs.   It is 43º outside, time to smoke 'em.

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Title: Re: ProQ Cold Smoke Generator - Pure genius.
Post by: Mike GadgetGeek Stock on February 15, 2014, 05:13:18 PM
The finish of the Water Buffalo filets.  The 4 hours in the smoke really did the job, I then cast-iron seared them and stuck them in our toaster over at 400º for a few minutes until they came to 137º.  They rested a bit too long, but we served them and they were Venezuelan tender, and VERY beefy tasting.  That much smoke did not distract from the flavor.  I dusted them with Dizzy Pigs Red Eye Express and served them unsauced.  Good along with some small baked sweet potatoes and a summer squash vegetable melange. 

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